15 deg icy washie

[GREENHAND]

this pict 15 deg with icecycles.

[GREENHAND]

next pict had to cut it back burned badly

[GREENHAND]

next pict mid summer 07. man they grow fast.

[GREENHAND]

so far this year still green.

[Kris]

Dear Green  

lovely stills and even iam a washy fan,and is that variety a robustas or filiferas ?

thanks & love,

Kris  

[GREENHAND]

Hi Kris. i think it is a hybrid due to the trunk size.

[GREENHAND]

i think this is a filifera

[Kim]

Nice recovery!  And nice photo documentation.  They are tough palms, for sure.  After the big bad freeze in January 2007, driving all along the California coastal cities from Santa Barbara to San Diego one could see hundreds of mature Washingtonia with their fronds absolutely torched from the cold.  Within a month or so, they all kicked out new spears, and now to look at them you'd never know they experienced any difficulty.

[GREENHAND]

(Kim @ Feb. 06 2008,11:28)

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Nice recovery!  And nice photo documentation.  They are tough palms, for sure.  After the big bad freeze in January 2007, driving all along the California coastal cities from Santa Barbara to San Diego one could see hundreds of mature Washingtonia with their fronds absolutely torched from the cold.  Within a month or so, they all kicked out new spears, and now to look at them you'd never know they experienced any difficulty.

Oh yes i forgot about the california freeze last year. this year is better so far, i have no cold weather damage yet. if it holds on this will be the first time since i have been obsessed with palms that my washie"s have not been burned. since it takes a whole day to trim those puppys on a extension ladder and a hand saw.

[Kris]

dear green  

lovely trunks & i do have a soft corner for the W.filiferas..

thanks & love,

Kris  

[DoomsDave]

Geenie!

Sneak a shot of the petioles -- I'll be able to tell you if it's a pure filly or hybrid.

A robby would'a croaked.

Carked.

Died.

Er, dead.

[Exotic Life]

Beautifull picture's, that washingtonia is a very fast growing palm species! Washingtonia's over here are also one of the most fastest palm species i think.

Robbin

[GREENHAND]

(Dave from So-Cal @ Feb. 07 2008,00:36)

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Geenie!

Sneak a shot of the petioles -- I'll be able to tell you if it's a pure filly or hybrid.

A robby would'a croaked.

Carked.

Died.

Er, dead.

Here you Dave, can you tell from this pict. it gets burnt every year but always comes back.

[GREENHAND]

(krisachar @ Feb. 07 2008,00:32)

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dear green  

lovely trunks & i do have a soft corner for the W.filiferas..

thanks & love,

Kris  

Me to Kris.

[Kris]

Dear Green  

here is a filifera only one germinated out of 40 seeds/pack..it was doing fine till i planted in on our clayee soil.and it was raining..it virtually rotted but is stablising..

here is a still of that before planting !

[Kris]

A close-up ! for my friend dave from So-Cal to I.D how pure is this washy filifera..?

[Kris]

Now lets see what happened when i planted this bueaty in the ground,and for 2 months it was raining heavily !

[Kris]

Please do not mistake these stills for cold damage ! i will call this a heavy rain damage that happened in hot tropics...

[Kris]

I want to inform you all that,the spear has not yet dropped or

become loose,its still intact and the leaf fronds drying up has stopped ! i will post those still later..

And by the way green i had tried to upload stills of res_800x600 with a file size of less than 250kb..the effect is fabulous.i request you to try this feature in your future uploads ! since i will be able to see your palms in a better clarity...

thanks & love,

Kris  

[GREENHAND]

(krisachar @ Feb. 07 2008,10:21)

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I want to inform you all that,the spear has not yet dropped or

become loose,its still intact and the leaf fronds drying up has stopped ! i will post those still later..

And by the way green i had tried to upload stills of res_800x600 with a file size of less than 250kb..the effect is fabulous.i request you to try this feature in your future uploads ! since i will be able to see your palms in a better clarity...

thanks & love,

Kris  

I think it will be ok. have you juiced it with some high nitrogen ferlilizer, have you tried fish emulshion, or bat guano, mine love that stuff.  i got these at wallmart for cheap, that is what i use on them.

[GREENHAND]

this is growing fast.

[Kris]

Dear Green  

yes we get fish based fertz and amonium sulphate(urea) which is high in nitrogen.but can i use fertz in this condition too ? will it not burn down the recovering desert palm ?

your advise & expertise is needed on this very desperiately..

thanks & love,

Kris  

[GREENHAND]

What i do is use about one half cup of stinky fish elmulshion pet 2 gal of water, and before i water the palm with it i sprinkle bat guano on the ground, pour about half the mixture around let it soak in. wait one week and do it again. THEY LOVE IT. AND ITS ALL ORGANIC.

[Exotic Life]

Hi,

Here is a picturé of my Washingtonia robusta, for that name i buy it. I have als seedlings/young plants from Washingtonia filifera and filibusta. When they get bigger i plant them in the ground.

Picture is from November 2007.

Robbin

[GREENHAND]

(Exotic Life @ Feb. 07 2008,13:25)

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Hi,

Here is a picturé of my Washingtonia robusta, for that name i buy it. I have als seedlings/young plants from Washingtonia filifera and filibusta. When they get bigger i plant them in the ground.

Picture is from November 2007.

Robbin

Robbin are you sure it is pure robusta. that trunk looks its tring to get fat. how does it react  to upper teens. it looks protected there.

[Exotic Life]

(GREENHAND @ Feb. 07 2008,13:30)

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(Exotic Life @ Feb. 07 2008,13:25)

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Hi,

Here is a picturé of my Washingtonia robusta, for that name i buy it. I have als seedlings/young plants from Washingtonia filifera and filibusta. When they get bigger i plant them in the ground.

Picture is from November 2007.

Robbin

Robbin are you sure it is pure robusta. that trunk looks its tring to get fat. how does it react  to upper teens. it looks protected there.

Hi Greenhand,

No i'm not for sure it is a pure robusta, if i look tot the color of the trunc i say yes, but just like you say he getting fat.

About the upper teens, he never seen that since he is planted he never seen lower then -6C/21F. The winter of 2006/2007 was extremly mild with only 8 times frost in the night with the lowest -2,8C/28.4F. Also this winter is already mild again... not so mild just like last winter but also now i have got only 14 times frost in the nights so far, 3 of them i have got lower tempeture then -3C/26.6F...

Only the following nights has been lower then -3C/26.6F.

- 19 December 2007 -3,9C/24.8F

- 20 December 2007 -3,7C/25.4F

- 21 December 2007 -5,4C/22.2F

The rest of the 14 nights frost so far this winter has been mostly between the 0C/32F and -2C/28.4F and daytempetures are rising most of the time above normal... so also this winter is nothing so far for this palm.

When it's winter i keep the palm dry, normally from End of November to End Februari.... He standing also on a right place, the soil is very sandy and dry. That wall is the south wall so when it's spring tempeture's are rising fast at that side. Also summer time, on that place there is more heat then the rest of the garden... if it's 25C/77F then at the wall it's rising above 30C/86F. Summer 2006, when i hit the 37C/98.6F in July the wall was more then 40C/104F... Washingtonia like the heat

Here is a picture of the trunc last summer... If you take a good look you can also seen a seedling, also this one survive the winter...

[GREENHAND]

it looks like this one at my lake place, was labeled robusta hybrid, cold hardy to 10 deg.

[Exotic Life]

So maybe the one what i've got in the ground is a hybrid between filifera en robusta? That means a filibusta?

Robbin

[Exotic Life]

Here is another one in the garden.. also this one was buy as a robusta... but the trunc are going the same way als the palm at the south wall.

[Kris]

(Exotic Life @ Feb. 07 2008,13:52)

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Hi Greenhand,

No i'm not for sure it is a pure robusta, if i look tot the color of the trunc i say yes, but just like you say he getting fat.

Dear Robbin  

i like the fat guys than the weak guys ? so if your washy is going to put on a fat trunk_iam very happy for you...

thanks for the stills,

love,

Kris  

[Exotic Life]

(krisachar @ Feb. 08 2008,10:19)

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(Exotic Life @ Feb. 07 2008,13:52)

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Hi Greenhand,

No i'm not for sure it is a pure robusta, if i look tot the color of the trunc i say yes, but just like you say he getting fat.

Dear Robbin  

i like the fat guys than the weak guys ? so if your washy is going to put on a fat trunk_iam very happy for you...

thanks for the stills,

love,

Kris  

Hi,

Thanks, i like them too. But i really want to know what i have, i would say robusta but maybe a hybrid?

I have another 2 of this one in containers but the must a bigger containter for a good growth. So maybe i plant 2 more in the garden over a month... Spring is coming

Robbin

[realarch]

It's great to see you guys growing washies and how much care you give them, especially in such diverse climate zones.

Both robusta and filifera are really beautiful palms and we often take them for granted here in Southern California. They are almost indestructible and have such fast growth. Enjoyed the photos and keep up the good work.

Robbin, in your one shots what kind of deck material is next to your washy? Looks like some kind of composite. What Kind of base is it on? Opps, kind of got off subject.

Tim

[feef706]

Greenhand,

 Nice birds of paradise you got there what do you do with them during the winter to keep them blooming in the summer? Thanks James

[GREENHAND]

(feef706 @ Feb. 08 2008,13:15)

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Greenhand,

 Nice birds of paradise you got there what do you do with them during the winter to keep them blooming in the summer? Thanks James

Thanks for asking James. i put it in a portable greemhouse all winter, last year i had 8 blooms its the first time ai have had that many.

[feef706]

Thats great.. I planted one at the end of my house last summer it is sheltered by a large oak and it has done well this winter so hopefully ill get some blooms late this year or next year.. How old is yours?

[GREENHAND]

(feef706 @ Feb. 08 2008,17:52)

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Thats great.. I planted one at the end of my house last summer it is sheltered by a large oak and it has done well this winter so hopefully ill get some blooms late this year or next year.. How old is yours?

i got it from h depot about two years ago in a small pot.  it did not bloom untill hit it with bloom booster. its in the greenhouse now ready to go back out.

[putu enjula]

I think washies are nearly indestructible!  I'll have to go back and take another picture of this palm...  it was hollowed out but looked perfectly fine at the top.

[putu enjula]

(Exotic Life @ Feb. 08 2008,01:55)

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Here is another one in the garden.. also this one was buy as a robusta... but the trunc are going the same way als the palm at the south wall.

Robbin,

I grew up in Southern California and lived in Arizona for a little while.  My grandparents also lived in Arizona  and I would visit them every summer.  So all my life I have always seen washies all over the place.  My grandmother was a head gardener of a small complex and would pull up washies like weeds.... (yes my grandmother was a palm-killer).    I have seen them growing in the cracks of the sidewalks in SoCal and Arizona so I never really appreciated them...  until now...  it is so cool to see a palm native to my area growing in your garden!  Wow, a washie in the Netherlands... he's so far away from home!  Anyway, it's nice to have a palm enthusiast from the Netherlands on the forum...  thanks for sharing!

[Kris]

Dear Robbin  

i think my dear friend green want mind,me giving you stills of some hybrid washy's all raised from seeds bought from reputable U.S seeds trading sites !

here are the visuals of one washy filibusta for your comparision they are hardly one and half years old maximun in age !

love,

Kris  

[Kris]

Leaf arrangement of that same hybrid palm...