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Bo,

I think that might be a reference to the MANURE getting pretty DEEP! :laugh:

Seriously I have read all these Dypsis threads ,and with variation in different palms other than dypsis,(take the common queen palm as an example,litoralis, silver queen,santa catarina,not to mention variation in ones that are supposed from the same region.),palms can be very VARIBBLE within the same species. I mention some of those names ,as it seems some of these names either are from the seed seller,or grower, to be a marketing  technique to promote sales! So to conclusivly settle these questions before they mature and set seed seems like a tall task for the palm botanist,little lone collectors, growers,buyers of these palms. Even then there still might be questions as to whether or not the are the same species or different? Not that trying to figure it it out isn't FUN,but it is way over MY head! :)

One last thought I have seen, and germinated 3 different kinds of queen palm seeds,all three are very different in size and shape,yet they are the same species!!

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Scott

Titusville, FL

1/2 mile from the Indian River

USDA Zone COLD

Posted

(Wal @ Feb. 01 2008,05:42)

QUOTE

(Utopia Palms @ Feb. 01 2008,13:33)

QUOTE
Hi All

Just a small note that John.D. Let us know back in another topic (6 month ago or maybe longer?), that this palm is not D.Ovodonsira, the thing is that he did not give us any idea what this species might be so more that likely it has not been described? Or if has been described and it has not been published yet?

The seed is still being collected under this name so just be aware that we could end up with a second palm with the same name if the true species were to collected some day.

It’s certainly a stunning palm!!!! Once again you need to get this species in the ground as soon as you can to really see it’s full potential! If you have the room defiantly plant more than one. :)

Clayton, I reckon you should plant one of each of these Dypsis biggies alongside each other, better make it 3 of each,  and we, that is you can then settle all issues on which Dypsis is which. You know 'em, big red, big white, big black, stumpy 1 and 2, orange crown. mealy bug, etc etc etc.

Don't thank me, I've got a million great ideas.  :laugh:

Ok Wal   I will do that! I call it “Wall experimental Dypsis corner” you have to come and check on them though! I reckon big red will lead the Dypsis pack closely followed by orange crown? Etc :)

Ari after seeing the photo that Greenleaf listed from Darwin bot gardens which should be moved into this topic, I can see that all of these species that Wal has listed above will grow very well for you and 5x faster than they do down here, so maybe we will have to send them all up there? I have to talk to that Rat pack and see what we can fit in there backpacks next time!  :D

Mike This topic has gone way off topic I think you have listed this one in the wrong thread?

I think Mike was answering Ron with this reply but it should have been listed in the “Big red thread” as the plant Mike is talking about (sp Adaingo) is a small form of Big red “Little red” :P

Bo a Gumboot is what we Aussies call those plastic boots you wear when there has been allot of rain and mud around! :D

Sunshine Coast Queensland Australia

Minimum 3.C -------- maximum 43.C Average Annual Rainfall 1700mm

IPS Membership since 1991

PLANT MORE PALMS TO SOOTH THE SOUL

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Posted

Clayton,

I am coming down in March... but might not make it to you this time. We are going to the GC for a wedding, so we are staying there 3 days. We will visit some of the Ratpacks' gardens for one day, go to the wedding for a day, and go to Movie World with the kids.

I will try to talk to Scott whether we might be able to swing it on Monday...???? But then, we have to spend time with Scott's cousin's family, whom we are staying with and catch up with Wal too... We are leaving Tuesday night. Short visit... (Scott doesn't have any holiday left).

Regards, Ari

Ari & Scott

Darwin, NT, Australia

-12°32'53" 131°10'20"

Posted

(ariscott @ Feb. 01 2008,23:28)

QUOTE
Clayton,

I am coming down in March... but might not make it to you this time. We are going to the GC for a wedding, so we are staying there 3 days. We will visit some of the Ratpacks' gardens for one day, go to the wedding for a day, and go to Movie World with the kids.

I will try to talk to Scott whether we might be able to swing it on Monday...???? But then, we have to spend time with Scott's cousin's family, whom we are staying with and catch up with Wal too... We are leaving Tuesday night. Short visit... (Scott doesn't have any holiday left).

Regards, Ari

:) Hi Ari,

When in March, ( Shhhhh,)

I don't want Clayton or Teresa to hear

(Immm, hey I was going to see Clayton and Teresa

about spending me bd, on the farm, have to see the Boss First),

OH No, Not again....... Thinking out LOUD  :laugh:

Regards Ari & Scott,

(the in trouble )

Mikey...... :D

:laugh: As normally.

M.H.Edwards

"Living in the Tropic's

And loving it".............. smilie.gif

Posted

Mike,

The wedding on the 8 of March, so we will be down on the 6th March, Thursday. We are going to Movie World on Friday, wedding on Sat and hopefully Daryl/Mike's place on Sunday. And if you are coming down, I guess.... we can meet at Clayton on Monday... and go home on Tuesday!! Wow... what a week it would be.

Regards, Ari :)

Ari & Scott

Darwin, NT, Australia

-12°32'53" 131°10'20"

  • 8 months later...
Posted
Here is a Picture of the Dark mealy bug palm at the Sullivan garden. I recall that I purchased 7 of these about 5 years ago and I gave this one to Terry Sullivan, it was the runt of the group (Terry rides me about this). They were all in 5 gallon size containers when I got them. The runt palm has out grown all of mine. It must be that Kapoho sunshine.

Jerry

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Not so dark any more

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What a beauty!! :drool: :drool:

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Evolution Palms-Cycads-Exoticas Nursery - We ship email us at - surferjr1234@hotmail.com - tel 858-775-6822

Posted
All of my understanding is that Dypsis Ovobontsira is actually the Highland Redneck, not the Dark Mealy Bug.

Gary

Wish I read this earlier!

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Evolution Palms-Cycads-Exoticas Nursery - We ship email us at - surferjr1234@hotmail.com - tel 858-775-6822

Posted
Wow!, what a beauty. When people come to my house one of the first palms I show them is my three foot Black Mealy Bug, one of my holy grail palms.

Gary

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Gary

I missed this thing is going off!

Stoker Palm

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Evolution Palms-Cycads-Exoticas Nursery - We ship email us at - surferjr1234@hotmail.com - tel 858-775-6822

  • 1 month later...
Posted
I got one of these Dark Mealy Bug's from Jeff Searle a year or so ago.  Its a nice 5 gallon now.  Thanks for parting with it Jeff :D  I'd post a pic, but my camera is kaputt.

So, let's set the record straight:

Dark Mealy Bug = D. ovobontsira

True Mealy Bug = D. mananjarensis

Malcomberi Mealy Bug = D. malcomberi

Highland Redneck (also has mealy bugs) = D. hovitrendrina

Any other mealy bug Dypsis?

JD,

Is this still current?

Happy holidays,

clark

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Evolution Palms-Cycads-Exoticas Nursery - We ship email us at - surferjr1234@hotmail.com - tel 858-775-6822

Posted

Hot as Hades here and Turkish bath every day! Like the justifiably proud Greek and Turk communities there seems to be confusion and disagreement over this palm. Best thing is to leave this introduction as undescribed till flowering. Mikey is quite right in writing that I once had a palm called D. sp. 'adaingo' but this turned out to be the form that Dypsis decipiens takes growing in rice fields. Some nice examples growing just before entering Ranomafana National Park from the NW.

Dypsis ovobontsira is described as a slender palm with a trunk diam circa 13cm (5+") and spirally arranged leaves. The palm in question fits not at all...if in doubt hack into the wood and if it is pinkish a step forward has been made.

It is not D. sp 'Highland lastelliana'...my specimens are 40cm dbh and the whole structure is massive! Many seeds have been set this year...hopefully viable.

Time for a cold draught of water enhanced by...eh?

Cheers! Bill.

Posted
Hot as Hades here and Turkish bath every day! Like the justifiably proud Greek and Turk communities there seems to be confusion and disagreement over this palm. Best thing is to leave this introduction as undescribed till flowering. Mikey is quite right in writing that I once had a palm called D. sp. 'adaingo' but this turned out to be the form that Dypsis decipiens takes growing in rice fields. Some nice examples growing just before entering Ranomafana National Park from the NW.

Dypsis ovobontsira is described as a slender palm with a trunk diam circa 13cm (5+") and spirally arranged leaves. The palm in question fits not at all...if in doubt hack into the wood and if it is pinkish a step forward has been made.

It is not D. sp 'Highland lastelliana'...my specimens are 40cm dbh and the whole structure is massive! Many seeds have been set this year...hopefully viable.

Time for a cold draught of water enhanced by...eh?

Cheers! Bill.

Dypsis ovobontsira is described as a slender palm with a trunk diam circa 13cm (5+") which this is clearly not!! :blink: :blink:

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  • 4 years later...
Posted
Bo,

I think that might be a reference to the MANURE getting pretty DEEP! :laugh:

Seriously I have read all these Dypsis threads ,and with variation in different palms other than dypsis,(take the common queen palm as an example,litoralis, silver queen,santa catarina,not to mention variation in ones that are supposed from the same region.),palms can be very VARIBBLE within the same species. I mention some of those names ,as it seems some of these names either are from the seed seller,or grower, to be a marketing technique to promote sales! So to conclusivly settle these questions before they mature and set seed seems like a tall task for the palm botanist,little lone collectors, growers,buyers of these palms. Even then there still might be questions as to whether or not the are the same species or different? Not that trying to figure it it out isn't FUN,but it is way over MY head! :)

One last thought I have seen, and germinated 3 different kinds of queen palm seeds,all three are very different in size and shape,yet they are the same species!!

Hmmmmm, I'm stumped :interesting:

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

Posted

hahaha.

this is 5 years old.

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

Posted

Bo,

I think that might be a reference to the MANURE getting pretty DEEP! :laugh:

Seriously I have read all these Dypsis threads ,and with variation in different palms other than dypsis,(take the common queen palm as an example,litoralis, silver queen,santa catarina,not to mention variation in ones that are supposed from the same region.),palms can be very VARIBBLE within the same species. I mention some of those names ,as it seems some of these names either are from the seed seller,or grower, to be a marketing technique to promote sales! So to conclusivly settle these questions before they mature and set seed seems like a tall task for the palm botanist,little lone collectors, growers,buyers of these palms. Even then there still might be questions as to whether or not the are the same species or different? Not that trying to figure it it out isn't FUN,but it is way over MY head! :)

One last thought I have seen, and germinated 3 different kinds of queen palm seeds,all three are very different in size and shape,yet they are the same species!!

Hmmmmm, I'm stumped :interesting:

Haha. I get it. How long did it take for you to dig this one up moose?

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

Posted
hahaha.

this is 5 years old.

This post has two stumpheads and a post by Mikey. I miss his post and deciphering them :)

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Posted

Hahahaah I'm very behind reading... NO WONDER Moose liked my front yard bump! He had just done the same thing! hahaha

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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