Help!! We've had these 2 queen palms for about 5 years. On both trees, the older fronds always collapse at the base while they are still green. The new fronds always come out fine and look healthy. I have noticed that they start getting some brown spots where the bend occurs, not long before they collapse. This is definitely not freeze damage or even wind damage, as this has happened to every single frond on both trees for several years. Has anyone had any experience with this? In the pictures, I tried to show the dark spots at the base, and also show the older fronds that collapsed and then turned brown (I usually cut them down right away, but we have been out of town for a couple months). Any help is greatly appreciated!

This is just an outside observation , but the palms look to me like there is a nutritional deficiency. The trunks seem to be smaller as the height increases .

Queens are quite sensitive to deficiencies . The area around the base of the tree with the roots showing , seems to be indicative of some cultural problem . The roots seem

dry . Are they functional ?

They are " water hogs " as well . A good quality Palm fertilizer is very important ,and a good consistent watering as well .

Good luck .

Thank you! We have been concerned about the irrigation since the water seems to run off, away from the base. We are looking into a way to fix that, and keep the water from escaping. We will also look into getting some palm fertilizer.

Mulch, Mulch and add more mulch. Those roots will be happy.

Here , in Southern California , Syagrus R. grow freely without fertilizer . They do, however, want lots of water to look their best . Harry

After another look at that one petiole , it seems like something is trying to eat it . There is an area where the petiole shows damage.

Nice to meet you @JaxMJ351 !

I concur with fellow Californian @Harry’s Palms and add that the big difference between So Cal and No Flo is that we generally have clay or loam type soil as opposed to more sandy soils like you guys have.

Queen palms like their water but they’re not the actual swamp things Royals and Kings are.

Try to get a palm fertilizer like Palms Plus that has micronutrients in it; don’t just use lawn fertilizer.

Sandy soils do benefit from fertilizers like, among others, Best Palm Plus.

Mmm

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I agree with bill and dave. Here in florida we have had a 10 month drought. Drought means greatly reduced fertilizer consumption since uptake requires moisture. No regular water, roots will pay the price. My arizona queens, grew in clay with pH modification and sand mix into the hole, they looked like beasts, here they look emaciated, though they can look pretty good(half the crown size of AZ) with enough effort. They are #1 water hogs but are very susceptible to nutrient deficiency because sand has NO cation exchange to retain nutrients so as soon as the much degrades to nutrients, it is washed away. We have to hope for rain, I dont have much confidence in irrigating a big palm with a few drippers in sand. 90% of all palms knocked down here in milton were queens NOT on irrigation timers. I am a believer in strong roots, strong palm. Its like they are a different species from arizona to florida, may more leaves in arizona. The roots are what we do not see and I'm expecting those roots have contracted in the drought, and drought does cause deficiencies but you do have to fertilize them here, alot.

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Queen palm nutrient deficiencies commonly involve manganese, potassium, and magnesium, leading to distinct visual symptoms like "frizzle top", discolored fronds, and stunted growth. These issues frequently stem from alkaline soils or poor nutrient retention in sandy ground. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Early on my arizona queens had Mn deficiency in arizona due to high soil pH deficiency. I altered the soil and fed them and this is the result

They florida are heavy feeders meaning fertilize several times a year especially mid summer and after the wet season.

Queen palms are heavy potassium, magnesium, and manganese feeders in Florida, frequently developing deficiencies in sandy or alkaline soils. To keep them healthy, use a specialized palm fertilizer. [1, 2, 3, 4]

And dave gave you the specialized palm fertilizer, palm gain florikan also work well.

on watering queens in florida

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Watering Needs for Queen Palms in Florida

In Florida, queen palms (Syagrus romanzoffiana) are fast-growing and thrive in warm, sunny conditions, but they require careful watering to avoid root rot and maintain healthy growth.

Mature palms (established)

• Water volume: About 30–40 gallons per week during the active summer growing season greensoul.blog.

• Frequency: Deep watering twice a week (15–20 gallons per session) to saturate the root zone 24–36 inches deep greensoul.blog+1.

• Soil type adjustment: Sandy soils drain quickly, so split the same total volume into more frequent, smaller sessions (e.g., 3x/week) to prevent the roots from drying out too fast greensoul.blog+1.

• Goal: Keep the soil consistently moist but not waterlogged; avoid letting the top 2 inches dry out between sessions Farmer Grows.

Newly planted palms

• Water volume: 100–150 liters (≈26–39 gallons) per week biologyinsights.com.

• Frequency: 3 times per week for the first few months to keep the root ball moist as it establishes greensoul.blog.

• Tip: Water slowly and deeply to encourage deep root growth; avoid shallow, frequent sprinkling.

Seasonal adjustments

• Summer (hot, dry): Increase frequency to 3–4x/week if temperatures exceed 90°F Farmer Grows.

• Winter dormancy: Reduce to once every 10–14 days, as growth slows and transpiration drops greensoul.blog.

• Rainy season: Reduce supplemental watering if natural rainfall is adequate, but still check soil moisture to prevent compaction and nutrient lockout cultivatingflora.com.

Key tips for Florida conditions

• Use slow, deep watering (soaker hoses or drip lines) to reach the full root zone biologyinsights.com+1.

• Mulch around the base to help retain moisture and regulate soil temperature.

• Avoid overwatering — the #1 cause of palm decline is root rot from soggy, poorly drained soil Farmer Grows.

• In sandy, leached soils common in Florida, adjust for rapid drainage by increasing frequency rather than total volume greensoul.blog+1.

Summary table:

Stage	Weekly Water	Frequency	Notes
Mature	30–40 gal	2x/week	Deep soak, 24–36" depth
Sandy soil	Same total	3x/week	Smaller sessions
New plant	26–39 gal	3x/week	Keep root ball moist
Summer heat	3–4x/week	Increase	Above 90°F
Winter	1x/10–14d	Reduce	Dormancy

Following these guidelines will help your queen palm in Florida stay lush, healthy, and resilient year-round.

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