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Royal???

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Yes , it looks like Roystonia , they do well out there if they get enough water. Harry

Oleracea!

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It just doesn’t look like any of my other royals most are enormous this one has short fronds that are spaced far apart!!

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@Happypalm interesting doesn’t look like any of my regia!!

Roystonia Oleracae are not as robust as Regia . They are a smaller palm with a more slender trunk. They can get big , mine is , but the fronds won’t cause near as much damage when they fall. A bit more cold sensitive than Regia. Harry

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I got a lot of my royals from another member as seedlings they would just pull them up and send them to me so it is possible that they are not all the same variety!!! I also have a lot of other palms that turned out not to be Royals!!!

It’s R.Regia it’s just young. It has plumose leaves whereas Oleracea leaves are on a fixed plane like Archontophoenix. Oleracea does not do well at all where it gets below 35 on average in winter out west. Closer to the coast in SoCal (OC for example) they do better.

The reason it’s stretched out is because the owner id giving it lots of water (and fertilizer) and it’s growing fast.

If it’s another Roystonea I’d say Borinquena as it has similar cold hardiness to Roystonea but is a smaller palm. Those who have both like @DoomsDave say noticeably smaller with a trunk that stays brown vs gray. I have 3 Regia in my yard. Here’s 2 that are within a relatively similar age to that palm (maybe within a year or two)with the main difference being the bases on mine are bigger. Not quite as stretched out but you can see they are to an extent due to being young and growing fast.

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36 minutes ago, James B said:

It’s R.Regia it’s just young. It has plumose leaves whereas Oleracea leaves are on a fixed plane like Archontophoenix. Oleracea does not do well at all where it gets below 35 on average in winter out west. Closer to the coast in SoCal (OC for example) they do better.

Mine has a plumose effect , unlike an Archontophoenix on a fixed plane . It is not as plumose as a Queen but , as Palmpedia describes ,” subtle plumose leaf. “The big difference , other than shear size , is that the fronds don’t droop at all , they stay more upright and only drop below 90 degrees to the trunk before they fall. I was told by Jungle Music that it would not survive at my house . I am 20 miles from the ocean. I have never had frost here and summer temps are about 10 degrees warmer than the coast. HarryIMG_0745.jpeg

This is Roystonia Oleracae . You can see the fronds are held more upright and the “ subtle plumose “ leaf as described. Mine isn’t near as impressive as a Regia would be , but takes up far less room and the fronds won’t do near the damage when they fall. Harry

36 minutes ago, Harry’s Palms said:

Mine has a plumose effect , unlike an Archontophoenix on a fixed plane . It is not as plumose as a Queen but , as Palmpedia describes ,” subtle plumose leaf. “The big difference , other than shear size , is that the fronds don’t droop at all , they stay more upright and only drop below 90 degrees to the trunk before they fall. I was told by Jungle Music that it would not survive at my house . I am 20 miles from the ocean. I have never had frost here and summer temps are about 10 degrees warmer than the coast. HarryIMG_0745.jpeg

This is Roystonia Oleracae . You can see the fronds are held more upright and the “ subtle plumose “ leaf as described. Mine isn’t near as impressive as a Regia would be , but takes up far less room and the fronds won’t do near the damage when they fall. Harry

Is it plumose? I was under the impression they weren’t so if I’m wrong with that assessment then disregard.

Not sure you can identify the drooping leaves at this age and with all the wind/dry damage. If leaves are prematurely drying out(it is AZ) and falling, small roystonea like that often do not have those below horizontal leaves. Nice fat bulge at the bottom says it does not lack for water. As I remember royals in the desert carry fewer leaves as you might expect and those leaves would be the lowest ones that you are looking for hanging down.

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Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a??

 

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Here’s Jayne Mansfield my big Roystonea oleracea. Makes my heart sing to look at that lovely thing.

And my big regia in the background.

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Fronds are plumose!! I am famous for not fertilizing when I have a problem with a palm and post it people generally say it needs fertilizer of some kind!! It does get plenty of water because I have a hose that leaks that I haven’t had time to fix so I move it back and forth from one side of the palm to the other!! The thing that stumped me is how short the fronds are and how far apart they are I guess that will change with age

3 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

Here’s Jayne Mansfield my big Roystonea oleracea. Makes my heart sing to look at that lovely thing.

And my big regia in the background.

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Dave how has it done with cold weather? I’ve have been reluctant to plant one as I read on PT they don’t do well once it gets below 30. I think you mentioned in the past they grow much faster than Regia.

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