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How would you call this beast?

Alberto

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Alberto Grand Master

Alberto

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Nineteen years ago I crossed my fat trunking Butia eriospatha with Jubaea chilensis. I have several of this palms growing here. A few were imported into England also. Yesterday I cleaned the trunk of one of this two. It are beasts! How you call the hybrid of a Butia eriospatha x Jubaea?

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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bubba Grand Master

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Absolute Beast! Bravo!

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What you look for is what is looking

Harry’s Palms Grand Master

Harry’s Palms

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A beautiful palm that would be welcome in a large space to be enjoyed . Harry

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happypalms Grand Master

happypalms

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I would call it a big Bertha!!!

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swolf Collaborator

swolf

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Thornless, more resilient Canary?  Nice cross.  Please keep the pics coming Alberto 👍

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richnorm Grand Master

richnorm

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The Wooly Wine Wonder palm?

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Alberto Grand Master

Alberto

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11 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

A beautiful palm that would be welcome in a large space to be enjoyed . Harry

Yes, a big space around it would be ideal!

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

Harry’s Palms Grand Master

Harry’s Palms

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It looks like you have plenty of room for such a palm. With the canopy it provides , room for understory palms too. Harry

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Also would love to see any pics of this hybrid in the UK or elsewhere.  Anyone?

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Andrei W. Konradi, Burlingame, California.  Vicarious appreciator of palms in other people's gardens and in habitat

Alberto Grand Master

Alberto

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5 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

It looks like you have plenty of room for such a palm. With the canopy it provides , room for understory palms too. Harry

Yes, I planted some shade loving plants like 5 groups of Clivia's of different collors, an Anthurium pedatum, all seed grown plants. Also a Rhapidophillum hystrix and a Lanonia dasiantha alongside.

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

Kim Grand Master

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Jubea the Hutt? 😜

or Jubea the But (pronounced like the first syllable of Butia)?

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Kim Cyr

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Palmarum Grand Master

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20 hours ago, Alberto said:

... Nineteen years ago I crossed my fat trunking Butia eriospatha with Jubaea chilensis. I have several of this palms growing here. A few were imported into England also. Yesterday I cleaned the trunk of one of this two. It are beasts! How you call the hybrid of a Butia eriospatha x Jubaea? ...

I would call it beefy. It claims the palm descriptor 'robust' all to itself. 

I like rich's name Wooly Wine Wonder Palm along with any binomial or abbreviation....

Butia eriospatha × Jubaea chilensis 'Alberto'

×Butiajubaea 'Alberto'

Alberto's Jubutia or BuJube

Alberto's Brazilian Giant

The Thing that Ate Alberto's Yard...

Ryan

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South Florida

Jonathan Grand Master

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Jubuteasaurus albertoii

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South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

Alberto Grand Master

Alberto

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15 hours ago, Palmarum said:

I would call it beefy. It claims the palm descriptor 'robust' all to itself. 

I like rich's name Wooly Wine Wonder Palm along with any binomial or abbreviation....

Butia eriospatha × Jubaea chilensis 'Alberto'

×Butiajubaea 'Alberto'

Alberto's Jubutia or BuJube

Alberto's Brazilian Giant

The Thing that Ate Alberto's Yard...

Ryan

😅

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

Alberto Grand Master

Alberto

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14 hours ago, Jonathan said:

Jubuteasaurus albertoii

It  are monsters 😄

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

Hu Palmeras Grand Master

Hu Palmeras

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I hope that these kingdoms you managed to cross will form a hybrid of interest. And very likely, when none of us are here anymore, send me all the seeds to Chile. More than a monster or dinosaur, it's a masterpiece of the palm grower. Just make sure it maintains its impressive size and harmonious beauty, which it will bestow upon humankind.

 

Jubutia erios

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these hybrids can be variable, your alberto seems to follow the beastly upright jubaea appearance more than the butia.  There is a quite a difference between the BxJ and the JxB from what Ive seen.  Yours doesnt have the heavily recurved leaves of the butia mother, its upright, and it has the fattie trunk more like a jubaea.  F1 hybrids can vary quite a bit, mules can be more uprright (butia) or weeping(syagrus).   

Here is my B x J, not sure what subspecies of butia, I got from jungle music.

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Here is my (BxJ)xJ, with more jubaea blood, from patrick shaeffer

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Yours looks more like the 2nd one, more jubaea genetic influence.  Both are hating the 85-88F weather  and grow slowly waiting for winter to green up and speed up.  Growth of these palms is probably 2x as fast in winter here with our 55F/75F typical average lows/ highs.

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Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a??

 

Tom Blank

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