Cocothrinax ?

[Darold Petty]

We embark on a palm buying junket tomorrow to San Diego county.  One member has requested Cocothrinax scoparia,  However, this species epithet is not listed in Henderson's "Palms of the Americas".  It is listed on Palmpedia, and the same situation for C. montana.  ( I purchased seeds of C. montana from Meg in Florida.)

 In the past I would  search for "Kew Monocot checklist",  however today I was not able to access that resource.

So,...what name is used for the palm in the pine forest at  4000 feet elevation on the island of Hispaniola ?  Please advise, thanks  

 

 

[pietropuccio]

https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:62418-2

 

 

[aztropic]

6 hours ago, Darold Petty said:

We embark on a palm buying junket tomorrow to San Diego county.  One member has requested Cocothrinax scoparia,  However, this species epithet is not listed in Henderson's "Palms of the Americas".  It is listed on Palmpedia, and the same situation for C. montana.  ( I purchased seeds of C. montana from Meg in Florida.)

 In the past I would  search for "Kew Monocot checklist",  however today I was not able to access that resource.

So,...what name is used for the palm in the pine forest at  4000 feet elevation on the island of Hispaniola ?  Please advise, thanks  

 

 

It IS Coccothrinax scoparia. I visited this palm in habitat in 2006 and revisited in 2020. 

 

aztropic 

Mesa, Arizona 

[Darold Petty]

Scott, thanks very much !  Next question, where I purchase one ?   Thanks

[aztropic]

Actually, these are very rarely available for whatever reason.🤷‍♂️ I grew a couple from seed from the 2006 trip that I sold off as 5 gallon plants. In 2020,I collected a handful of seed, but only got 5 plants up to 1 gallon size, and already sold 4 of them at that size and put the last one into a 5 gallon pot for myself.🤷‍♂️

The only source currently that I know of would be Caribbean Palms nursery in Florida; but he definitely doesn't ship.

Good luck! 🍀

 

aztropic 

Mesa, Arizona 

 

[bubba]

Sorry to high jack the thread but I needed Aztropic to confirm that this palm is a C vinifera and not a C ekmanii

[aztropic]

1 minute ago, bubba said:

Sorry to high jack the thread but I needed Aztropic to confirm that this palm is a C vinifera and not a C ekmanii

Yes, those are Pseudophoenix vinifera. Pseudophoenix ekmanii is more carrot shaped; very thin proportionally at the base, and thick at the top when mature - then reverting to a very thin crown shaft area.

Fairchild planted out about 25 ekmanii years ago at 3 gallon size and may only have 4 or 5 survivors at this point. They just do not seem to do well anywhere outside of habitat. Here's the ones left at Fairchild with a pic of a habitat specimen next to me to compare.

 

aztropic 

Mesa, Arizona