Palm id request

[happypalms]

Another unknown variety. I know it’s tough and dry tolerant that’s about it. 

[SeanK]

Palmate, thorny with a bit of gloss to the leaves. One of your local Livistonas?

[Fusca]

Richard, it looks like my Acoelorraphe wrightii only not as glaucous.  Very drought tolerant and loves water!  Mine just started suckering but you can't see it in the photo.

[happypalms]

2 hours ago, Fusca said:

Richard, it looks like my Acoelorraphe wrightii only not as glaucous.  Very drought tolerant and loves water!  Mine just started suckering but you can't see it in the photo.

I kind of thought that when I spotted the sucker coming up, but I don’t remember purchasing seeds of that variety. I did purchase cocothrinax seeds around that time I remember, but it’s not a cocothrinax, so my source of seed supplier may have gotten it wrong iam led to believe! Which does happen a lot in the palm seed industry.

[Harry’s Palms]

It does look like Livistona , but with a pup …. ? Hmmm🤔  Harry

[gyuseppe]

no livistona, no acoelorraphe wrightii,

[happypalms]

5 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

It does look like Livistona , but with a pup …. ? Hmmm🤔  Harry

I do remember getting cocothrinax seeds, but that’s were it ends, and the sucker puts an end to cocothrinax species. The plot thickens. 
Richard 

[happypalms]

4 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

no livistona, no acoelorraphe wrightii,

Hi gyuseppe, Sabal species but they don’t sucker either,! 

[gyuseppe]

57 minutes ago, happypalms said:

Hi gyuseppe, Sabal species but they don’t sucker either,! 

Yes Richard, the leaf of the sucker is the same as sabal, could they be 2 plants that instead of one? Maybe there were 2 seeds in the pot ?

[SeanK]

With the suckers, I'll agree with Acoelorraphe, also spiny.

[happypalms]

1 hour ago, SeanK said:

With the suckers, I'll agree with Acoelorraphe, also spiny.

It has to be what else is out there that matches it. 

[gyuseppe]

1 hour ago, SeanK said:

With the suckers, I'll agree with Acoelorraphe, also spiny.

the leaves of the acoelorrhaphe suckers are not that wide

[Harry’s Palms]

It has some characteristics of a Chamaerops Humilus . Harry

[gyuseppe]

1 hour ago, Harry’s Palms said:

It has some characteristics of a Chamaerops Humilus . Harry

yes

[tim_brissy_13]

My first thought was Acoelloraphe. They are variable in terms of colour especially when small. Don’t you have a mature clump in your garden setting seed @happypalms? Any chance this came from that somehow?

I can’t quite put my finger on what it is about it, but I don’t think Chamaerops. Maybe the fronds are too full/not deeply divided enough? Leaf bases also look a little off to me to be Chamaerops. All this being said, I’m not 100% confident on ID. 

[happypalms]

2 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

My first thought was Acoelloraphe. They are variable in terms of colour especially when small. Don’t you have a mature clump in your garden setting seed @happypalms? Any chance this came from that somehow?

I can’t quite put my finger on what it is about it, but I don’t think Chamaerops. Maybe the fronds are too full/not deeply divided enough? Leaf bases also look a little off to me to be Chamaerops. All this being said, I’m not 100% confident on ID. 

Hi Tim I do have a clump with seeds but I never put any in to germinate. I do remember getting a few seeds from a traveling salesman so to speak who said they were cocothrinax but that seems to be phoey. So iam still lost,  I don’t think Acoelorrhaphe as well the colour and leaf shape, plus the thorns are more deadly on Acoelorrhaphe. Perhaps I shouldn’t have traded the cow for the magic bean seeds after all, those travelling salesman after all can be a bit doggie.