Palm id

[96720]

Any ideas 

[Tracy]

59 minutes ago, 96720 said:

Any ideas 

At that size, it is pretty hard to tell, but I would guess it might be something in the Butia family.  It looks like it is getting its first divided leaf, which is going pinnate.

[96720]

I pulled it up as a seedling which I usually throw away because they are usually Washingtonias but but when I pulled this one it had a round seed attached so I figured it was a Sabal but then today I noticed the new frond is going pinnate so didn’t know I do have pindos and mules but mule seeds are not supposed to sprout so maybe a pindo!!

[kylecawazafla]

I notice your screen name is the Hilo zip code. I used to live there and am now living in a similar climate to yours in El Centro, CA.

I can't really distinguish this palm from a Butia vs Butiagrus since they are both such variable seedlings, but something to help identify it is to look at the growth rate. I figure it would take a Butia about 3 to 4 years to get to that size, so if that palm is younger, I'd lean towards Butiagrus. Generally the seeds are not viable, but there are exceptions. I believe the Butiagrus at Huntington BG used to periodically set viable seeds. 

[SeanK]

If you start seeing hooks, perhaps Butia.

If none, perhaps Syagrus.

[kylecawazafla]

I'd also like to add I'm leaning more towards Butiagrus as the petioles have that mottled white stuff that is more associated with Syagrus.

[happypalms]

I thought butia capita?

[96720]

I think it grows to fast to be Butia but it is possible because I do have 3!!

[gyuseppe]

is butia,no butiagrus

[Tracy]

6 minutes ago, gyuseppe said:

is butia,no butiagrus

Buia is a genus.  Butiagrus refers to a cross between The two genra, Butia and Syagrus.   Normally the Syagrus involved is Syagrus romanzoffiana.  The Buia would be whichever Butia species 96720 is growing. 

[quaman58]

Agree, Butia oderata (capitata)

[PAPalmtrees]

It's definitely a Butia species. Was it directly under a palm? What palms are in the area where you found it?

[96720]

It was actually by my Sabals that’s what I thought it was probably 200’ from my Butia!!