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Chamaedorea elegans Survival & New Growth – Arbon/Stachen (Switzerland, Zone 8b/9a)

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Our bigger Chamaedorea elegans has been living on my 4th-floor balcony since March 2025. She just survived her first full winter outside in Arbon/Stachen! ❄️🛡️

While she shows some winter wear, the statics are undeniable: She is pushing a fresh, green spear right now! (See my close-up photo). 🌿🔥

Maintaining this indoor-palm outside for a whole year is a true testament to the unique microclimate of our fortress. The 4th-floor thermal statics are pulverizing the botanical limits! 🌬️💎

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Official Climate Update: Subtropical Microclimate (Cfa) | 36-year mean: 11.76°C (incl. -0.3K offset) | ~2,100+ annual sunshine hours Bresser solar-vent. Station @ 1.70m since 2019 (Stachen, CH)

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    @Mazat

    SIE GEHEN! (YOU GO!)

    Chamadorea elegans are startlingly tough; they don’t look it. 

    Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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    Update on the technical data: While my solar-ventilated Bresser weather station at ground level (425m) recorded a minimum of -10.3°C (13.5°F), we only had 3 ice days in the valley. Up on my 4th-floor balcony, there were no ice days at all. Thanks to the thermal mass of the building and my 100% passive Sagex (EPS) insulation, the temperature rose above freezing every single day. This is why the Chamaedorea have solid spears and are already pushing new growth. Passive protection works if you understand your microclimate!

    Official Climate Update: Subtropical Microclimate (Cfa) | 36-year mean: 11.76°C (incl. -0.3K offset) | ~2,100+ annual sunshine hours Bresser solar-vent. Station @ 1.70m since 2019 (Stachen, CH)

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    11 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

    @Mazat

    SIE GEHEN! (YOU GO!)

    Chamadorea elegans are startlingly tough; they don’t look it. 

    Thanks, DoomsDave! I really appreciate your support. As you said, they are surprisingly tough. Even with -10.3°C (13.5°F) at ground level, my 4th-floor 'fortress' had zero ice days, and the sun did the rest. The spears are rock solid! Cheers from Switzerland.

    Official Climate Update: Subtropical Microclimate (Cfa) | 36-year mean: 11.76°C (incl. -0.3K offset) | ~2,100+ annual sunshine hours Bresser solar-vent. Station @ 1.70m since 2019 (Stachen, CH)

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    How much can a koala bear!

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    7 hours ago, happypalms said:

    How much can a koala bear!

    Thanks Richard ❤️, it`s the power of the Arbon/Stachen fortress! Everthing bears perfectly here.🤗

    Official Climate Update: Subtropical Microclimate (Cfa) | 36-year mean: 11.76°C (incl. -0.3K offset) | ~2,100+ annual sunshine hours Bresser solar-vent. Station @ 1.70m since 2019 (Stachen, CH)

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