How pure is this p.Reclinata

[dimitriskedikogloy]

My main concern when ordering p.reclinata is its purity since it can hybridise incredibly easy and I love pure tropical reclinata. This one looks very pure to me the fronds seem flat and very light green although there come concerns with hardiness when it’s pure so I want to hear some opinions and thinks to be cautious with 

[Harry’s Palms]

I wouldn’t know how to tell . I have a Reclinata that I bought from a trusted nursery where my palm mentor was manager. It took many years to gain height and the thing clumped like crazy. I keep putting off thinning it because of the spikes . Every time I am near it , I get attacked . Harry

[gyuseppe]

Doesn't she have any suckers yet? Reclinata as a child, she puts out suckers

[dimitriskedikogloy]

1 minute ago, gyuseppe said:

Doesn't she have any suckers yet? Reclinata as a child, she puts out suckers

Well it’s still in a pot im waiting for spring to plant it so no suckers yet 

[Phoenikakias]

Is there any white ramenta on the petiole and on the midverve of the leaflets? Color and spine arrangement seem correct. Can you post real close ups of the spines? 

[Jim in Los Altos]

13 hours ago, dimitriskedikogloy said:

Well it’s still in a pot im waiting for spring to plant it so no suckers yet 

Doesn’t matter that it’s in a pot. P. reclinata start suckering at a young age whether in a pot or in the ground. The coloring of the cut stems on the trunk of your’s reminds me of Phoenix sylvestris. 

[Harry’s Palms]

This was a while ago. It has two main trunks that are getting big . My plan is to cut almost all the suckers off except the main larger trunks . I just have to get my chain saw down there and hack away , I just know I will need a lot of band aids! Harry

This one was suckering before it left the pot at an early stage , younger than yours.

From our deck looking down . To the left of the Washingtonia . Harry

[Phoenikakias]

I can not say it is not pure but neither can I claim the opposite. We just need more evidence. Alone the still not suckering habit is a strong indication of not purity but not full proof.  Chamaerops is also a clumping sp but there is also a solitary strain, let alone the environmental factors that promote or conversely obstruct the amount and start time of suckering. I have come across a couple big reclinata specimens (admittedly not closely inspected- only in the web), which are solitary and imo no noincidence at all, that both are male. At least in dactylifera and theophrasti frequently male specimens have a considerably less pronounced  to non existent caespitose habit than female individuals and about this I am pretty certain. So why this should not be also the case the close wild relative P reclinata? Furthermore if individual plant in current case is the result of offshoot transplant, I have even more serious doubts, whether it would sucker as soon as a seed grown plant of similar size. Like I said in the beginning we need more clues. A close up of the acanthophylls could be a crucial indication. Base of spine in reclinata is more or less rounded while in other lager sized spp and hybrids triangular.

[dimitriskedikogloy]

8 hours ago, Jim in Los Altos said:

Doesn’t matter that it’s in a pot. P. reclinata start suckering at a young age whether in a pot or in the ground. The coloring of the cut stems on the trunk of your’s reminds me of Phoenix sylvestris. 

Hmm the trunk maybe but the fronds look way to tropical in my opinion 

[dimitriskedikogloy]

53 minutes ago, Phoenikakias said:

I can not say it is not pure but neither can I claim the opposite. We just need more evidence. Alone the still not suckering habit is a strong indication of not purity but not full proof.  Chamaerops is also a clumping sp but there is also a solitary strain, let alone the environmental factors that promote or conversely obstruct the amount and start time of suckering. I have come across a couple big reclinata specimens (admittedly not closely inspected- only in the web), which are solitary and imo no noincidence at all, that both are male. At least in dactylifera and theophrasti frequently male specimens have a considerably less pronounced  to non existent caespitose habit than female individuals and about this I am pretty certain. So why this should not be also the case the close wild relative P reclinata? Furthermore if individual plant in current case is the result of offshoot transplant, I have even more serious doubts, whether it would sucker as soon as a seed grown plant of similar size. Like I said in the beginning we need more clues. A close up of the acanthophylls could be a crucial indication. Base of spine in reclinata is more or less rounded while in other lager sized spp and hybrids triangular.

I agree I will take some close ups today but the most important thing for me is for it to look lush and tropical so my main goal is avoiding p.canariensis and date palm add mixture 

[Harry’s Palms]

The palm in your pic looks different to me . Mine has very stiff leaves that are shorter and dark green. 
   @Phoenikakias , if you look at my second picture , you will see my single trunk Chamaerops Humilus that you mention. I planted it as a seedling over 20 years ago . It has never suckered , just grew straight up . I actually wanted a typical suckering palm so I could cut the trunks that got too tall. As luck would have it , I ended up with a non suckering one. Harry

[Phoenikakias]

2 hours ago, dimitriskedikogloy said:

I agree I will take some close ups today but the most important thing for me is for it to look lush and tropical so my main goal is avoiding p.canariensis and date palm add mixture 

 

45 minutes ago, Harry’s Palms said:

The palm in your pic looks different to me . Mine has very stiff leaves that are shorter and dark green. 
   @Phoenikakias , if you look at my second picture , you will see my single trunk Chamaerops Humilus that you mention. I planted it as a seedling over 20 years ago . It has never suckered , just grew straight up . I actually wanted a typical suckering palm so I could cut the trunks that got too tall. As luck would have it , I ended up with a non suckering one. Harry

Have in mind both, that greenhouse grown palms in shade are etiolated and therefore look more tropical.