Sowing seeds and harvesting a few dypsis baronii seeds

[happypalms]

Getting into a few seeds this week, you gotta keep sowing them if you want to grow them! And a nice haul of some dypsis baronii from the garden that shall be distributed around to a few IPS members, sharing the palm seed love around! 

[Jonathan]

Wow, those Licuala seeds are extremely diverse in shape and texture...the mattanensis seeds look like alien slugs or leaches. Don't eat them kids.

[Harry’s Palms]

Nice haul there. In a few months you will have some new sprouts . Harry

[happypalms]

On 2/17/2026 at 10:29 PM, Jonathan said:

Wow, those Licuala seeds are extremely diverse in shape and texture...the mattanensis seeds look like alien slugs or leaches. Don't eat them kids.

I just love the diversity in palm seeds, I have a collection of old germinated or dead seeds on the table in a dish, better looking than a bowl of fruit.

[happypalms]

On 2/18/2026 at 1:33 AM, Harry’s Palms said:

Nice haul there. In a few months you will have some new sprouts . Harry

I just keep on buying seeds, I have another 5 orders out at the moment just waiting to get into the country and clear customs, and one in the Australia post system that should be here on Monday. 
Richard 

[happypalms]

A few more palm seeds, with some interesting varieties. Thought I might get a few cycas tropophylla seeds, palms and cycads seem to go together and are just as slow as each other, plus while the palms are growing you have another sideline business. 

[happypalms]

A few orania sylvicola seeds going in. 

[happypalms]

At it again with a few more intresting varieties. This lot should keep me busy for a day or two. 

[happypalms]

Here we go again with a couple of rps varieties, see how they go. The main intrest in this lot is the loxococcus rupicola. One beautiful palm that’s a fantastic one for the ornamental garden! 

[happypalms]

Here we go again a few good ones.  
A few Pinanga curranii seeds a great Pinanga with a mottled look. And a batch of cycas scratchleyana seeds. Always use new medium and new containers for propagation of seeds, it avoids a lot of problems with fungal diseases. 

[happypalms]

A few imported chamaedorea seeds from rps, a couple of germinated ones so a couple of good ones coming up in the collection. And a few local gifted linospadix minor seeds a very interesting Australian species of palm

[Harry’s Palms]

Such a joy when they sprout . Careful this could get addictive! Harry

A couple of Dypsis/ Chrysalidiocarpus almost ready for pots. I m really excited about both these if they make it . The drywall screw is for when they are covered in plastic for humidity.

[Jonathan]

4 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

Such a joy when they sprout . Careful this could get addictive! Harry

A couple of Dypsis/ Chrysalidiocarpus almost ready for pots. I m really excited about both these if they make it . The drywall screw is for when they are covered in plastic for humidity.

Hey Harry...what does the blackii allude to?

Is this a different form of C decipiens??

[Harry’s Palms]

11 minutes ago, Jonathan said:

Hey Harry...what does the blackii allude to?

Is this a different form of C decipiens??

It is a Dypsis . I just had a couple of seeds left from the Decipiens that I put in the container . The Dypsis Blacki are from @DoomsDave. I will know for sure when I pot them , the seeds for the Blacki are different . I couldn’t find the species on Palmpedia so not sure but Dave said they are very special…we’ll see . I did finally get at least one Decipiens sprout. Harry

[happypalms]

1 hour ago, Jonathan said:

Hey Harry...what does the blackii allude to?

Is this a different form of C decipiens??

That’s where you’re decipiens seeds come from, good old California Harry! 

[tim_brissy_13]

1 hour ago, Jonathan said:

Hey Harry...what does the blackii allude to?

Is this a different form of C decipiens??

https://ucanr.edu/sites/default/files/2025-03/Chrysalidocarpus blackii PalmArbor FINAL.pdf
 

C blackii was described from cultivation. It is very similar to C lanceolatus. When I tried to key out my palm bought as C lanceolatus (well actually D lanceolata back in the day), it came out to be about halfway between C lanceolatus and C blackii based on the article🤣. In fact some fronds key out to be C lanceolatus while others on the same stem keyed out to be C lanceolatus! 

[happypalms]

5 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

Such a joy when they sprout . Careful this could get addictive! Harry

A couple of Dypsis/ Chrysalidiocarpus almost ready for pots. I m really excited about both these if they make it . The drywall screw is for when they are covered in plastic for humidity.

It never ends the fun in sowing seeds, addictive yes do I want a cure no!

Richard 

[Jonathan]

1 hour ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

https://ucanr.edu/sites/default/files/2025-03/Chrysalidocarpus blackii PalmArbor FINAL.pdf
 

C blackii was described from cultivation. It is very similar to C lanceolatus. When I tried to key out my palm bought as C lanceolatus (well actually D lanceolata back in the day), it came out to be about halfway between C lanceolatus and C blackii based on the article🤣. In fact some fronds key out to be C lanceolatus while others on the same stem keyed out to be C lanceolatus! 

The tall ones in the front of the pic are C blackii Tim?

Very nice!

[tim_brissy_13]

Just now, Jonathan said:

The tall ones in the front of the pic are C blackii Tim?

Very nice!

I’m still calling them C lanceolatus. Most fronds have ramenta on the abaxial surface of leaflets and the red fuzz extends slightly up the petiole. But weirdly some other fronds and certain leaflets on each frond don’t have ramenta. The ends of most fronds have leaflets arranged at a very acute angle (C blackii trait) whereas the leaflets closer to the petiole are more flatly arranged.  Some fronds have leaflets which are slightly irregularly arranged (C lanceolatus trait) while other fronds are nearly perfectly regularly arranged (C blackii). Figure all that out! 🤣).

[Harry’s Palms]

Tim , thank you for the clarity . So this is a derivative of the Lanceollatus as I understand it. The link / article took me down the rabbit hole to a much better understanding . I couldn’t find any info through my normal sources , although Dave did tell me about the palms in Orange County . I was very happy that I got my hands on a few seeds, even happier that I was successful in germinating them. Thanks again to my good friend @DoomsDave. Harry

[DoomsDave]

On 4/25/2026 at 6:21 AM, Harry’s Palms said:

Tim , thank you for the clarity . So this is a derivative of the Lanceollatus as I understand it. The link / article took me down the rabbit hole to a much better understanding . I couldn’t find any info through my normal sources , although Dave did tell me about the palms in Orange County . I was very happy that I got my hands on a few seeds, even happier that I was successful in germinating them. Thanks again to my good friend @DoomsDave. Harry

You’re welcome!

[DoomsDave]

Here’s the “type” at the Black garden in Fountain Valley, OC California. Scream obscenities with delight!

 

 

Chrysalidocarpus blackii (above) looks a lot like lanceloata, in fact Mr Black bought his thinking that’s what it was since that’s what the original label says.

But the trunks are a lot thicker and the infructescence is totally different. Blackii’s are dense and compact while lanceolata’s dangle like C. lutescens’.

[happypalms]

1 hour ago, DoomsDave said:

Here’s the “type” at the Black garden in Fountain Valley, OC California. Scream obscenities with delight!

 

 

Chrysalidocarpus blackii (above) looks a lot like lanceloata, in fact Mr Black bought his thinking that’s what it was since that’s what the original label says.

But the trunks are a lot thicker and the infructescence is totally different. Blackii’s are dense and compact while lanceolata’s dangle like C. lutescens’.

Argh the dypsis complex syndrome. Such a shame that Madagascar has lost most of its native habitat. Palms in cultivation will never be found in habitat there again. This leaves a big gap in the identification of indigenous species now in cultivation. 

[DoomsDave]

49 minutes ago, happypalms said:

Argh the dypsis complex syndrome. Such a shame that Madagascar has lost most of its native habitat. Palms in cultivation will never be found in habitat there again. This leaves a big gap in the identification of indigenous species now in cultivation. 

Yeah mate they rock!

[tim_brissy_13]

22 hours ago, happypalms said:

Argh the dypsis complex syndrome. Such a shame that Madagascar has lost most of its native habitat. Palms in cultivation will never be found in habitat there again. This leaves a big gap in the identification of indigenous species now in cultivation. 

Unlikely C blackii is/was native to Madagascar. Its closest relatives C lanceolatus, C cabadae and C pembanus aren’t Madagascan species. But yes your point stands. Many mysteries in the Dypsis, Chrysalidocarpus and Vonitra family. 

[happypalms]

2 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Unlikely C blackii is/was native to Madagascar. Its closest relatives C lanceolatus, C cabadae and C pembanus aren’t Madagascan species. But yes your point stands. Many mysteries in the Dypsis, Chrysalidocarpus and Vonitra family. 

The pemba islands with the witch doctors, now they could put a spell on anyone! 

[happypalms]

A few more seeds of a few interesting varieties. Starting to get into a few cycas species they always are winner for any palm grower, just set and forget and wait while the palms grow, a great sideline plant cycas!