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RARE beige Bismarckia

PalmBossTampa

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I was able to force this color with 23 degrees but i don't think I’ll be able to maintain this look.

 

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aztropic Grand Master

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4 hours ago, PalmBossTampa said:

I was able to force this color with 23 degrees but i don't think I’ll be able to maintain this look.

 

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By the looks of it,they'll probably revert back to that ugly blue color... 🤷‍♂️😆 Not necessarily a bad thing.👍

 

aztropic 

Mesa, Arizona 

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Mesa, Arizona

 

Temps between 29F and 115F each year

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happypalms

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Well that’s one way to get a new variety of Bismarck! 

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kinzyjr Grand Master

kinzyjr

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@PalmBossTampa Looks like you got a little too excited with the flamethrower!

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Lakeland, FL: USDA Zone 2023: 10a  2012: 9b  1990: 9a | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962)

Josue Diaz Grand Master

Josue Diaz

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Are you selling any?

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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Hmm. 

Looks like a paler version of freeze damaged Caryota obtusa at the Huntington botanic garden’s after the big freeze of January 2007. 15-17 degrees FF.

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I knew what this post was going to be haha. I had the beige ones last year. 23 is rough on them but usually survivable. 

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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Gophers annihilate Bizzies.

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@PalmBossTampa that seems like a lot of burn for 23F.  Do you have thermometers in your yard to check exact temps?  Usually my yard is 2 to 4F colder than the nearby airport, at least on still nights.  That's due to the Urban Heat Island effect.  It doesn't happen on windy nights.

Anyway, the reason I was asking is that my three Bizzies had 22.5F and not too much damage.  Maybe it's just varying degrees of hardiness due to genetics.  Mine are very silver white normally, so theoretically they have some waxy protection from the cold.  Are yours normally greenish, blue-green, or silver-blue?

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The wind made the difference this time.  23F is one thing, but couple it with 30-40MPH winds... 🥶

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Lakeland, FL: USDA Zone 2023: 10a  2012: 9b  1990: 9a | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962)

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Throw them on eBay like that $25,000 Sabal. 

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On 2/17/2026 at 11:10 PM, DoomsDave said:

Gophers annihilate Bizzies.

No gophers but did have lots of pigs run wild until i finished fencing

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On 2/18/2026 at 5:50 PM, Merlyn said:

@PalmBossTampa that seems like a lot of burn for 23F.  Do you have thermometers in your yard to check exact temps?  Usually my yard is 2 to 4F colder than the nearby airport, at least on still nights.  That's due to the Urban Heat Island effect.  It doesn't happen on windy nights.

Anyway, the reason I was asking is that my three Bizzies had 22.5F and not too much damage.  Maybe it's just varying degrees of hardiness due to genetics.  Mine are very silver white normally, so theoretically they have some waxy protection from the cold.  Are yours normally greenish, blue-green, or silver-blue?

I have short drive out each morning @ daybreak and read those by car thermostat. My digital was in my greenhouse tent and thought id power through without buying more thermometers. My friend in Keysville 4 miles away has 17 and 16 on my 25/23 nights so maybe it DID get lower and i missed it

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1 hour ago, PalmBossTampa said:

No gophers but did have lots of pigs run wild until i finished fencing

I have it on good authority that pigs taste much better than gophers.

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On 2/17/2026 at 3:58 PM, Josue Diaz said:

Are you selling any?

Me? If so yeah!

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looks like how a dogs vision is..... I bet they bounce back. 

 

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

JohnAndSancho Grand Master

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On 2/21/2026 at 5:04 PM, PalmBossTampa said:

No gophers but did have lots of pigs run wild until i finished fencing

30-50 feral hogs? Where your palms grow? 

 

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On 2/21/2026 at 6:08 PM, PalmBossTampa said:

I have short drive out each morning @ daybreak and read those by car thermostat. My digital was in my greenhouse tent and thought id power through without buying more thermometers. My friend in Keysville 4 miles away has 17 and 16 on my 25/23 nights so maybe it DID get lower and i missed it

I think mine just took a few more days to show the damage.  Mine look slightly better than yours, but my smallest is also about twice the size as the ones in your photo.  All of the Bismarckia around I4 from Lake Mary to Orange City look pretty toasty beige too.  Most have at least one or two decent looking new fronds, so they probably will grow back.  I can't say the same for other palms...like pretty much all of my Dypsis/Chrysalidocarpus.

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It was my experience when I lived in Natchez, Mississippi, that mine would suffer exactly with the local Washingtonia robustas...23F and you are skating on thin ice. The leaves would brown up nice and toasty within days or weeks of any prolonged (multi-hour) exposure at that temp. 24F and above it was usually safe. I didn't lose mine until the 2010 freeze with three days solid below freezing and a low of 18F for three mornings in a row. So I think these will be back if they stayed above about 20F. But I agree that genetics may have an effect. I believe it's still up in the air whether the blue vs. green forms have that much difference in cold-hardiness. I've heard both yay and nay on that topic...

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Michael Norell

Rancho Mirage, California | 33°44' N 116°25' W | 287 ft | z10a | avg Jan 43/70F | Jul 78/108F avg | Weather Station KCARANCH310

previously Big Pine Key, Florida | 24°40' N 81°21' W | 4.5 ft. | z12a | Calcareous substrate | avg annual min. approx 52F | avg Jan 65/75F | Jul 83/90 | extreme min approx 41F

previously Natchez, Mississippi | 31°33' N 91°24' W | 220 ft.| z9a | Downtown/river-adjacent | Loess substrate | avg annual min. 23F | Jan 43/61F | Jul 73/93F | extreme min 2.5F (1899); previously Los Angeles, California (multiple locations)

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