Two ID Requests

[hollywoodforever]

Hello all. Longtime lurker, first time poster here. I'm curious if the group can point in the right direction for an ID for two palms. 

 

The first is from my neighborhood here in Los Angeles. A very attractive, slender, colorful palm. Seems to grow in clumps. 

 

The second, I saw on a trip to Mexico City. It looks almost like a Washingtonia but I have a feeling it is not... 

 

Thanks for your advice. 

[hollywoodforever]

Another view of the Mexico City palms, if helpful: 

[Harry’s Palms]

First one is Chrysalidiocarpus Lutescens and I do believe the second is Washingtonia Robusta. Harry

[hollywoodforever]

43 minutes ago, Harry’s Palms said:

First one is Chrysalidiocarpus Lutescens and I do believe the second is Washingtonia Robusta. Harry

Thanks for the advice, Harry. I've never seen a Washingtonia look like that here in LA! Maybe this is what they look like with much more water than we get... 

[Las Palmas Norte]

2 hours ago, hollywoodforever said:

I've never seen a Washingtonia look like that

👍Agreed.

[Harry’s Palms]

6 hours ago, Las Palmas Norte said:

👍Agreed.

What is so different about it. I truly don’t see it . Harry

[TropicsEnjoyer]

Yeah it probably gets a lot more water allowing it to maintain many more leaves than it would in say a more deserty place. Another thing too people there probably don’t trim palms as much just for the sake of trimming. Sure the fire risk exists but a lot of washies get buzz cut on the monthly it’s refreshing to see one with a dense crown.

[Harry’s Palms]

I have mine trimmed but just my liking and fire / wind conditions here. Harry

‘My only Washingtonia Robusta right after the tree service finished. It normally carries 2-3 times the fronds . When it starts to “ skirt “ , I have it trimmed.