Delmarva Sabal Minors?

[AlexSmith]

Hi im Alex and Im a palm enthusiast from Delmarva Ive been very interested of the north spreading of sabal minors and other cold hardy palms.  Since alot are wildly being seen in southern virginia I always wondered if in the future some wild populations could grow here.  Technically the area im looking at in Delmarva is climate zone 7b which is 5 to 10 degrees but from global warming that climate map is outdated it never goes under 10 in that area. Which is right suitable for needle palms or sabal minors.  From other topics I read there seems to be some small populations spread out in south Delaware around Bethany that survive winter unaided. But whats also interesting is just the property plants businesses and peoples homes have Its becoming the new virginia beach Im starting to see way more sabal minors there.  Im not suprised if theres so many now there able to make seeds and have birds spread them.  Im very intrested in seeing if theres any small populations out in the wild in delmarva since no one besides us palm enthusiasts really researches and looks out for this stuff its possible there is. I am going to pokomoke river/stateforest to plant about 1000 seeds a year. Pokomoke seems like the best place since it mimics the north carolina south carolina rivers that sabal minors do grow near. Pokomoke on average seems to have more good places to plant then bad. Also as I stated its technically in 7b but it never goes below 10 there anymore thanks to climate change.  its more like 8a now. With 2 percent rate to adulthood is about 20 palms per 1000 and 10 percent would be 100. 2 percent is low luck 5 is what ill most likly get and 10 is really lucky.  If anyone you know or yourself has any info about secret wild sabal minor populations in delmarva please tell me or give me some location and photos that sounds weird but you know what i mean. And if anyones up to it buy some seeds and plant them in Pokomoke hopefully we can get a population there. I know write weird so sorry about that but yeah if anyone has any photos information or locations then definitely respond back. And go plant some seeds there

[PAPalmtrees]

5 hours ago, AlexSmith said:

Hi im Alex and Im a palm enthusiast from Delmarva Ive been very interested of the north spreading of sabal minors and other cold hardy palms.  Since alot are wildly being seen in southern virginia I always wondered if in the future some wild populations could grow here.  Technically the area im looking at in Delmarva is climate zone 7b which is 5 to 10 degrees but from global warming that climate map is outdated it never goes under 10 in that area. Which is right suitable for needle palms or sabal minors.  From other topics I read there seems to be some small populations spread out in south Delaware around Bethany that survive winter unaided. But whats also interesting is just the property plants businesses and peoples homes have Its becoming the new virginia beach Im starting to see way more sabal minors there.  Im not suprised if theres so many now there able to make seeds and have birds spread them.  Im very intrested in seeing if theres any small populations out in the wild in delmarva since no one besides us palm enthusiasts really researches and looks out for this stuff its possible there is. I am going to pokomoke river/stateforest to plant about 1000 seeds a year. Pokomoke seems like the best place since it mimics the north carolina south carolina rivers that sabal minors do grow near. Pokomoke on average seems to have more good places to plant then bad. Also as I stated its technically in 7b but it never goes below 10 there anymore thanks to climate change.  its more like 8a now. With 2 percent rate to adulthood is about 20 palms per 1000 and 10 percent would be 100. 2 percent is low luck 5 is what ill most likly get and 10 is really lucky.  If anyone you know or yourself has any info about secret wild sabal minor populations in delmarva please tell me or give me some location and photos that sounds weird but you know what i mean. And if anyones up to it buy some seeds and plant them in Pokomoke hopefully we can get a population there. I know write weird so sorry about that but yeah if anyone has any photos information or locations then definitely respond back. And go plant some seeds there

This is awesome man! I'm in needmore Pennsylvania z7a so I'm on the Maryland border About an hour and a half from DC. And this is something I would love to do in my local area. This spring on the Potomac River in Hancock MD  I would like to plant some sabal minors and  Scatter seeds. I think this is something everyone in the mid Atlantic regions needs to be doing reestablish populations of sabal minors Everywhere that they can grow!

[AlexSmith]

4 hours ago, PAPalmtrees said:

This is awesome man! I'm in needmore Pennsylvania z7a so I'm on the Maryland border About an hour and a half from DC. And this is something I would love to do in my local area. This spring on the Potomac River in Hancock MD  I would like to plant some sabal minors and  Scatter seeds. I think this is something everyone in the mid Atlantic regions needs to be doing reestablish populations of sabal minors Everywhere that they can grow!

Glad you agree cause climate zone maps are very outdated because of global warming most areas are a climate zone higher now if not 2 so I think its very possible your area can support them. Im hoping 10 years of this 1000 seed plan will get a population but I noticed Pokomoke definetly has a more dixie feel to it and I know a good spot to go from I saw another form on this website where there was a needle palm spotted in Janes island state park which is southern delmarva to. Potomac is a great place to start but I recommend finding a place at least 100 feet from the river because to much flooding will wipe out seeds. I also recomend making seedballs because another huge threat to seeds is rodents and seedballs help mask the sent of them. Are you thinking about the south Potomac or north but I definitely recommend a continued spot because polination between eachother is key once you got about 100 that reach breeding age there population will grow alot without you. But im not an expert but I have researched alot. I would def recomend Caledone state park. But if you ever find yourself in delmarva definetly head to pokomoke to plant some besides that pokomoke is a wonderful forest. Thanks for your response though ill def check out your channel!

[PAPalmtrees]

24 minutes ago, AlexSmith said:

Glad you agree cause climate zone maps are very outdated because of global warming most areas are a climate zone higher now if not 2 so I think its very possible your area can support them. Im hoping 10 years of this 1000 seed plan will get a population but I noticed Pokomoke definetly has a more dixie feel to it and I know a good spot to go from I saw another form on this website where there was a needle palm spotted in Janes island state park which is southern delmarva to. Potomac is a great place to start but I recommend finding a place at least 100 feet from the river because to much flooding will wipe out seeds. I also recomend making seedballs because another huge threat to seeds is rodents and seedballs help mask the sent of them. Are you thinking about the south Potomac or north but I definitely recommend a continued spot because polination between eachother is key once you got about 100 that reach breeding age there population will grow alot without you. But im not an expert but I have researched alot. I would def recomend Caledone state park. But if you ever find yourself in delmarva definetly head to pokomoke to plant some besides that pokomoke is a wonderful forest. Thanks for your response though ill def check out your channel!

Yes I agree I would say Hancock Maryland is easily a solid 7b (Except last year's and this year's Winters)  This is the area I would like to plant them in It is very swampy and in person it looks like you're somewhere in North Carolina it's very cool. Next time I'm there I'll get some pictures, I would also like to plant some 1-2 gallon sabal minor Also. It would be north Potomac. Thanks for the recommendation if I do scatter seeds I'll make seed balls! Also thanks for checking out my channel!

[AlexSmith]

41 minutes ago, PAPalmtrees said:

Yes I agree I would say Hancock Maryland is easily a solid 7b (Except last year's and this year's Winters)  This is the area I would like to plant them in It is very swampy and in person it looks like you're somewhere in North Carolina it's very cool. Next time I'm there I'll get some pictures, I would also like to plant some 1-2 gallon sabal minor Also. It would be north Potomac. Thanks for the recommendation if I do scatter seeds I'll make seed balls! Also thanks for checking out my channel!

Yeah definitely dosent look like a bad place only concern is temp up there but if it dosent get below 10 often then your probably good besides temperature that looks like a great place but yeah if you get about 100 seeds every year and some live plants themselves you could get a population there and from your channel that palm all the way up in PA outside no protection to seem with no leaf tip burn from the cold is shocking and a great sign for this goodluck! sabal minors can survive and create populations all over the places i talk about and there but for them to spread natually takes to long so us planting seeds can actually create a population thanks for sharing! good luck with this endever. if you want to see the delmarva stuff I talked about like bethany and janes island just search up Wild S. Minor on MD Eastern Shore? topic on google. Heres the images of Janes island state park needle palm.

[PAPalmtrees]

13 minutes ago, AlexSmith said:

Yeah definitely dosent look like a bad place only concern is temp up there but if it dosent get below 10 often then your probably good besides temperature that looks like a great place but yeah if you get about 100 seeds every year and some live plants themselves you could get a population there and from your channel that palm all the way up in PA outside no protection to seem with no leaf tip burn from the cold is shocking and a great sign for this goodluck! sabal minors can survive and create populations all over the places i talk about and there but for them to spread natually takes to long so us planting seeds can actually create a population thanks for sharing! good luck with this endever. if you want to see the delmarva stuff I talked about like bethany and janes island just search up Wild S. Minor on MD Eastern Shore? topic on google. Heres the images of Janes island state park needle palm.

Even if it does get below 10 they are very Hardy plants they can survive well under zero. There are some people in Cincinnati who have  very good luck with them and Wichita Kansas and they have survived record breaking cold. Yeah I've actually seen that post before but I'm going to relook at it thanks!

[PAPalmtrees]

@AlexSmith Whenever I plant some there I'll make a video on it on my Youtube channel And post  on here

[AlexSmith]

11 hours ago, PAPalmtrees said:

@AlexSmith Whenever I plant some there I'll make a video on it on my Youtube channel And post  on here

sounds good

[Chester B]

If you search on this forum, spreading Sabal minor seed in your area has been done by other Palmtalkers over the years.  Many people in your area have been on here discussing the same things you are now.  I suggest looking up some of the old posts and getting in contact with some of them to see how their seeds have done.