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Washingtonia is now monotypic, bye bye "W. robusta" and "x filibusta"


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The new thing is:

Washingtonia filifera var. Filifera

Washingtonia filifera var. Robusta

Washingtonia filifera var. Sonorae

 

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Posted

It looks like the WFO Plant List is updated in this manner:

The hybrid doesn't seem to be placed just yet: 

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Lakeland, FLUSDA Zone 2023: 10a  2012: 9b  1990: 9a | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962)

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Thanks for posting!  

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-Chris

San Antonio, TX - 2023 designated zone 9A 🐍 🌴🌅

(formerly Albuquerque, NM ☀️ zone 7B for 30 years)

Washingtonia filifera/ Washingtonia robusta/ Sabal mexicana/ Sabal uresana/ Sabal minor/ Sabal miamiensis/ Dioon edule

2025-2026 - low 20F/ 2024-2025 - low 21F/ 2023-2024 - low 18F/ 2022-2023 - low 16F/ 2021-2022 - low 21F/ 2020-2021 - low 9F

Posted

Despite the obvious morphological differences was the DNA not glaringly different enough to divide robusta and filifera into two species? I’m not sure how much this changes in practicality but cool to know I guess.

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16 minutes ago, TropicsEnjoyer said:

Despite the obvious morphological differences was the DNA not glaringly different enough to divide robusta and filifera into two species? I’m not sure how much this changes in practicality but cool to know I guess.

They just randomly did this. To my knowledge, they did no article to support the reasons for this transition like it was done for the transition of Dypsis > Chrysalidocarpus, Vonitra and Dypsis.

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3 hours ago, idontknowhatnametuse said:

They just randomly did this. To my knowledge, they did no article to support the reasons for this transition like it was done for the transition of Dypsis > Chrysalidocarpus, Vonitra and Dypsis.

They wouldn’t make a call like this at random. The below probably explains a few of the questions above. 
 

https://academic.oup.com/botlinnean/article/196/4/506/6160486

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Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

Posted
20 hours ago, TropicsEnjoyer said:

the DNA not glaringly different enough to divide robusta and filifera into two specie

 

20 hours ago, idontknowhatnametuse said:

They just randomly did this.

Published March of 2021 - basically:

'We found a very gradual genetic gradient north-to-south among populations of wild Washingtonia... physical differences between palms identified 'filifera' or 'robusta' showed no genetic distinction between groups.' It's a really cool article but some of it was beyond my ken. https://academic.oup.com/botlinnean/article/196/4/506/6160486?login=true

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Posted

I prefer the synonym "Pritchardia robusta" myself - it'd be one Pritchardia that I could grow here!

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Jon Sunder

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1 hour ago, Fusca said:

I prefer the synonym "Pritchardia robusta" myself - it'd be one Pritchardia that I could grow here!

Lol

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So is Washingtonia filifera var. sonorae in cultivation? How is it different from var. robusta ?

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Eric

Orlando, FL

zone 9b/10a

Posted
1 hour ago, Eric in Orlando said:

So is Washingtonia filifera var. sonorae in cultivation? How is it different from var. robusta ?

Same question...

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2 hours ago, Eric in Orlando said:

So is Washingtonia filifera var. sonorae in cultivation? How is it different from var. robusta ?

Not sure, I can't seem to find information about it.

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Posted

Kew accepted this publication for making the change:
https://academic.oup.com/botlinnean/article/196/4/506/6160486

That'll provide the basis for the decision.

The taxonomists like to make it look like they're busy. Not long back they shoved Ptychosperma macarthurii into P propinquum.

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Posted

I'd still like to have a mature Washintonia filifera var. filifera here.  Working on it...

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Lakeland, FLUSDA Zone 2023: 10a  2012: 9b  1990: 9a | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962)

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