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Chamaedorea? Need ID On This Unusual One


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 A while back one of you knowledgeable persons ID’d this unusual Chamaedorea and stupid me can’t remember what it is. It’s solitary, fruits are tiny and brownish black when ripe, nodes on trunk are bulged and irregular, and leaflets are droopy and a bit irregular. The palm is roughly fifteen years old. 
 

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Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

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A more recent look at the palm during our recent flooding rains. Palm is in the right in this video. 
 

 

 

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Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

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Perhaps C. glaucifolia ?

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2 minutes ago, Darold Petty said:

Perhaps C. glaucifolia ?

Darold, Leaves are bright green with no hint of blue or gray. Fruits are very tiny. Trunk is super knobby. 

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Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

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There's Chamaedorea glaucifolia/Chamaedorea plumosa in that. Whatever it is, most likely a hybrid.

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It does look a lot like a specimen in my garden, which had been exhibited previously in the forum for identification.  Latter is obviously a hybrid although obtained initially as a glaucifolia seedling. Mine has shorter fronds but it is exposed to strong, northern wind and full sun. It is a miracle, that it remains alive, imo a strong indication of hybrid resilience. Are the fruits of your plant naturally small or just not pollinated? There must be far more hybrids out there, than those listed by Hodel.

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2 hours ago, Phoenikakias said:

It does look a lot like a specimen in my garden, which had been exhibited previously in the forum for identification.  Latter is obviously a hybrid although obtained initially as a glaucifolia seedling. Mine has shorter fronds but it is exposed to strong, northern wind and full sun. It is a miracle, that it remains alive, imo a strong indication of hybrid resilience. Are the fruits of your plant naturally small or just not pollinated? There must be far more hybrids out there, than those listed by Hodel.

I have many male Chamaedorea species that flower when this particular one does but, for some reason, I’ve not had any luck germinating seeds from this palm and I’ve tried many times. 

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Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

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Jim, at first glance it looks like plumosa. I’ll have to look at mine in the light and see how it’s holding its inflorescences, as I can’t recall at the moment. 

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40 minutes ago, quaman58 said:

Jim, at first glance it looks like plumosa. I’ll have to look at mine in the light and see how it’s holding its inflorescences, as I can’t recall at the moment. 

Bret, C. plumosa has a very smooth trunk with leaf scars at approximately five to six inches apart versus the very bumpy and irregular much closer together rings on the unidentified Chamaedorea. Pic below is of a couple of my plumosa. They are super fast growers as apposed to the very slow Chamaedorea in the original post. 
 

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Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

zone 10a/9b

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So, after looking at my Plumosa, the inflorescences are definitely different. The overall look is of Plumosa, the inflorescence has glaucifolia written all over it. Hybrids are always a pain to ID the parents. But a great looking specimen, whatever it is!

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