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BxS or BxJ, faster growth ?

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I visited Flora Grubb nursery today, they offered a one-day sale of 20% discount on all plants.  What could I do, being a plant slut ?

Naturally, I bought palms for which I have no planting space !   :mrlooney:

Which is considered to be faster growing and/or a better choice for my garden,    Butia x Syagrus or  Butia x Jubaea ?

   Remember, my microclimate is frost free, but also warmth deprived.  Thanks

San Francisco, California

@Darold Petty usually I'd say BxS is always faster by far.  I have both here, and BxJ is maybe half the speed of BxS.  In SF maybe that's not true?  Maybe just look at the S vs J side of the hybrid.  If Syagrus is much faster in your area than Jubaea, then most likely BxS is much faster than BxJ?  But if Syagrus suffers there and does poorly, then BxJ might be tougher and realistically grow healthier and possibly faster than BxS. 

Obviously I am just pondering the question, and don't have an answer for you... :D

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Thanks,  Syagrus grows well here if cared for.  Most of them suffer from neglect.   I just ordered B x S seeds from @Bigfish

San Francisco, California

6 hours ago, Darold Petty said:

I visited Flora Grubb nursery today, they offered a one-day sale of 20% discount on all plants.  What could I do, being a plant slut ?

Naturally, I bought palms for which I have no planting space !   :mrlooney:

Which is considered to be faster growing and/or a better choice for my garden,    Butia x Syagrus or  Butia x Jubaea ?

   Remember, my microclimate is frost free, but also warmth deprived.  Thanks

Guess you'll be chopping down that big ol'Ceroxylon out the back to make some room Darold?

South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

21 hours ago, Darold Petty said:

I visited Flora Grubb nursery today, they offered a one-day sale of 20% discount on all plants.  What could I do, being a plant slut ?

Naturally, I bought palms for which I have no planting space !   :mrlooney:

Which is considered to be faster growing and/or a better choice for my garden,    Butia x Syagrus or  Butia x Jubaea ?

   Remember, my microclimate is frost free, but also warmth deprived.  Thanks

I would think that the Butia x J would like the cool climate.  It might not be faster then the mule, but it will likely be happier with the cool temps.  My B x J seems to like winter here, it puts out more leaves in cooler weather and stalls in the higher heat.  My experience with mules is they vary a lot due to the F1 genetics is like a "box of chocolates".  I prefer the upright mules, I have a yatay x syagrus to a neighbor, more butia blood.  I had a more syagrus dominated B x J and it didnt do well in the dry sandy site I had it in.  Today I have a (B x J) xJ at that site after an edit and it seems a lot happier.  If I had an F1 hybrid and consider that either parent may dominate, Ill take the B x J.  I am not a fan of syagrus in my sandy soil, they look poorly in my area and get knocked down in wind.  

Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a??

 

Tom Blank

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Thanks very much, @sonoranfans  :greenthumb:

San Francisco, California

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