Sabinara magnifica germinating well

[happypalms]

My sabinara are starting pop up well. 19 out of a hundred so far and there’s more there with those tiny little white spikes poking through the substrate. They grow well in my climate, iam pretty happy about the fact they grow well it’s such a beautiful palm. Another month and I will know pretty well much know how many I will be getting. There an interesting looking seedling, I will lift them up like Bismarck and kerriodoxa when I pot them up. I just gently push the fork in and holding the seed and the spike I just tease them up with fork as I gently lift them. Theres an art to it and after practicing with joeys you know that sound when you break a root and cringe. So far no sabinara roots broken. 

[Mazat]

2 minutes ago, happypalms said:

My sabinara are starting pop up well. 19 out of a hundred so far and there’s more there with those tiny little white spikes poking through the substrate. They grow well in my climate, iam pretty happy about the fact they grow well it’s such a beautiful palm. Another month and I will know pretty well much know how many I will be getting. There an interesting looking seedling, I will lift them up like Bismarck and kerriodoxa when I pot them up. I just gently push the fork in and holding the seed and the spike I just tease them up with fork as I gently lift them. Theres an art to it and after practicing with joeys you know that sound when you break a root and cringe. So far no sabinara roots broken. 

Magic🌈

[happypalms]

50 minutes ago, Mazat said:

Magic🌈

That they are🌈

[Harry’s Palms]

A new palm starting life . I have dug up new seedlings from the garden to pot . The roots are very fragile , you have to have steady hands and a bit of experience . 

[happypalms]

9 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

A new palm starting life . I have dug up new seedlings from the garden to pot . The roots are very fragile , you have to have steady hands and a bit of experience . 

I try not too molly coddle them, the more you fuss the more damage you do. 
I wish sabinara would pop up in my as weeds! 
Richard 

[Tyrone]

You are the king of Sabinaria. 

[gyuseppe]

2 hours ago, Tyrone said:

You are the king of Sabinaria. 

Hello Tyrone,
Can you grow this species in Albany?

[happypalms]

3 hours ago, Tyrone said:

You are the king of Sabinaria. 

The court jester perhaps 🤣

[happypalms]

20 minutes ago, gyuseppe said:

Hello Tyrone,
Can you grow this species in Albany?

He only dreams of growing such a palm!☝️

[Than]

Wow, a stunner! You are lucky (burning in jealousy).

[gyuseppe]

5 hours ago, happypalms said:

He only dreams of growing such a palm!☝️

I've actually always dreamed of growing it, too, but it's impossible here.
Richard, you have many species in your garden. I see you'll soon have all the species you can grow at home. I'm actually a little jealous of your climate!

[Mazat]

8 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

I've actually always dreamed of growing it, too, but it's impossible here.
Richard, you have many species in your garden. I see you'll soon have all the species you can grow at home. I'm actually a little jealous of your climate!

Gyuseppe, don't you think it would work for you under the canopy of your larger palm trees? 

I just pictured it in my mind.

[gyuseppe]

2 hours ago, Mazat said:

Gyuseppe, don't you think it would work for you under the canopy of your larger palm trees? 

I just pictured it in my mind.

no tom !

[Tyrone]

16 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

Hello Tyrone,
Can you grow this species in Albany?

No. Not without special efforts like a heated hothouse in winter. 

[happypalms]

19 hours ago, Than said:

Wow, a stunner! You are lucky (burning in jealousy).

Hawaii growers get my attention there the masters! 

[happypalms]

14 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

I've actually always dreamed of growing it, too, but it's impossible here.
Richard, you have many species in your garden. I see you'll soon have all the species you can grow at home. I'm actually a little jealous of your climate!

Possible for you but a lot of work, and eventually it would get to large to move in and out of the house! 

[happypalms]

3 hours ago, Tyrone said:

No. Not without special efforts like a heated hothouse in winter. 

There taking temperatures down to 2 degrees Celsius in my climate! 

[tim_brissy_13]

2 hours ago, happypalms said:

There taking temperatures down to 2 degrees Celsius in my climate! 

It’s not the absolute minimum that would do it in but the extended cool. There’s palms like Cocos, Neoveitchia and Socratea growing in NE NSW and SE QLD in areas that occasionally get near freezing that would die after even a month of genuinely cool weather further south. 
 

I’d say at best Sabinaria would be marginal in Sydney or Wollongong based on reports so far. Anywhere cooler than that would probably just be a waste of a special palm. 

[happypalms]

25 minutes ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

It’s not the absolute minimum that would do it in but the extended cool. There’s palms like Cocos, Neoveitchia and Socratea growing in NE NSW and SE QLD in areas that occasionally get near freezing that would die after even a month of genuinely cool weather further south. 
 

I’d say at best Sabinaria would be marginal in Sydney or Wollongong based on reports so far. Anywhere cooler than that would probably just be a waste of a special palm. 

Yes it’s the amount of low chill hours that does them in, verschaffeltia splendida does well if protected in my climate, put them in the greenhouse and they do just as good , that is until the very end of winter it’s just to long for them the cold weather. 
But I have thought that about a lot of palms oh it’s too cold, but the amount of winners I have found is more than I have killed. Obviously there are some that I don’t even bother with, but I have been surprised so far by a mapu as a seedling it’s still alive! 

[Than]

47 minutes ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

It’s not the absolute minimum that would do it in but the extended cool. There’s palms like Cocos, Neoveitchia and Socratea growing in NE NSW and SE QLD in areas that occasionally get near freezing that would die after even a month of genuinely cool weather further south. 
 

I’d say at best Sabinaria would be marginal in Sydney or Wollongong based on reports so far. Anywhere cooler than that would probably just be a waste of a special palm. 

How about Archontophoenix cunninghamiana in Melbourne? Can they take the extended cool?

[tim_brissy_13]

2 hours ago, Than said:

How about Archontophoenix cunninghamiana in Melbourne? Can they take the extended cool?

Yep they can thrive here. It’s actually the occasional heat and dry that can make them look average here. Well watered specimens in at least partial shade tend to look best. They are actually really cool tolerant and thrive at the very top of the Dandenongs mountain range (approx 600m asl) east of Melbourne where the temperature barely goes above 10C for a few months. They can thrive down in Hobart too. 

[gyuseppe]

2 hours ago, Than said:

How about Archontophoenix cunninghamiana in Melbourne? Can they take the extended cool?

I live in southern Italy and they can be grown, it's a shame I lost them while I was sick, but a friend of this forum has already sent me the seeds👌

[gyuseppe]

6 hours ago, happypalms said:

Possible for you but a lot of work, and eventually it would get to large to move in and out of the house! 

Yes, Richard, aside from the work , I can't get her in and out of the house. My wife is jealous of the house. I'd risk having my wife put a romperebbe  on my head to ! 😄 Luckily, we've been married for many years and we get along very well.👌

[happypalms]

3 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

Yes, Richard, aside from the work , I can't get her in and out of the house. My wife is jealous of the house. I'd risk having my wife put a romperebbe  on my head to ! 😄 Luckily, we've been married for many years and we get along very well.👌

Put in your man cave, And yes a clever man takes what the wife says and listens to ones love. 

[Than]

11 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Yep they can thrive here. It’s actually the occasional heat and dry that can make them look average here. Well watered specimens in at least partial shade tend to look best. They are actually really cool tolerant and thrive at the very top of the Dandenongs mountain range (approx 600m asl) east of Melbourne where the temperature barely goes above 10C for a few months. They can thrive down in Hobart too. 

Hobart and Melbourne have something in common: despite their cool climate, in the winter temperatures don't go below zero at all most years. I guess that helps a lot. My A. cunninghamiana seemed unfazed by our hot summer. We had several days of 42 C. It is in shade though. Let's see how it'll fare at -1 or -2C.

[tim_brissy_13]

1 hour ago, Than said:

Hobart and Melbourne have something in common: despite their cool climate, in the winter temperatures don't go below zero at all most years. I guess that helps a lot. My A. cunninghamiana seemed unfazed by our hot summer. We had several days of 42 C. It is in shade though. Let's see how it'll fare at -1 or -2C.

Looking at Melbourne’s climate data can be deceptive. I’d guess it’s the same for Hobart too; the city and the nearest weather station rarely drops below freezing however most of the wider metropolitan area does each year. My area averages 9 occurrences under 2C each year and 2 occurrences below freezing. A cunninghamiana aren’t typically touched slightly below freezing. My ones have seen down to -1.5C and never been damaged. 
 

A cunninghamiana are typically common all over the metropolitan area in Melbourne, even way out east to the valley below the Dabendongs where it is coldest.  I’ve seen some fairly close to Coldstream where it gets down to around -5C most winters. 

[Hu Palmeras]

I'll just say one word. Exotic

[Tyrone]

21 hours ago, happypalms said:

There taking temperatures down to 2 degrees Celsius in my climate! 

Are they like Kerriodoxa or more difficult. 

[Tyrone]

4 hours ago, Than said:

Hobart and Melbourne have something in common: despite their cool climate, in the winter temperatures don't go below zero at all most years. I guess that helps a lot. My A. cunninghamiana seemed unfazed by our hot summer. We had several days of 42 C. It is in shade though. Let's see how it'll fare at -1 or -2C.

-1C or -2C are not a problem for cunninghamiana if it’s an occasional occurrence. If it was every week in winter that would be different I think. Larger ones can definitely survive that and if it warms up in summer with good nutrients and soil moisture they can regrow from damage quite quickly. Many of mine have experienced those sorts of minimums. 

[happypalms]

20 minutes ago, Tyrone said:

Are they like Kerriodoxa or more difficult. 

About the same as kerriodoxas, once past the seedling they stop being fussy, I have had about 4 with spear pull for some unknown reason but two of them made it back just fine. Iam now spraying with Agrifos, kerriodoxa, joeys and sabinara all get the same symptoms. 

[happypalms]

3 hours ago, Hu Palmeras said:

I'll just say one word. Exotic

More than exotic a gift from the palm gods !