happypalms Sowing a few seeds

[happypalms]

Just to add a little insult to injury, for my troubles of rudely importing seeds, on top of the whole customs debacle. They did manage to seize 700 dypsis nodifera seeds  as well, even with a new phytosanitry certificate. They kindly gave me a nice bill of $294 Aus dollars, there so lovely our government is just adore them and would like to thank them for making rare palms even more rarer and even more expensive. All the costs get passed on to the buyer. 🤣

[happypalms]

Might have to start a go fund me page 🤣🤣🤣

 

[gyuseppe]

1 hour ago, happypalms said:

Just to add a little insult to injury, for my troubles of rudely importing seeds, on top of the whole customs debacle. They did manage to seize 700 dypsis nodifera seeds  as well, even with a new phytosanitry certificate. They kindly gave me a nice bill of $294 Aus dollars, there so lovely our government is just adore them and would like to thank them for making rare palms even more rarer and even more expensive. All the costs get passed on to the buyer. 🤣

All this is not right Richard, one goes out of his way to run a nursery, and what do they do, so they encourage it to close, thus increasing unemployment, I don't know about you in Australia, but here unemployment is very high

[happypalms]

12 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

All this is not right Richard, one goes out of his way to run a nursery, and what do they do, so they encourage it to close, thus increasing unemployment, I don't know about you in Australia, but here unemployment is very high

Australia is very fast becoming very expensive to live, many people and I say many people are pushed to edge with the cost of living. There will be a generation of young people who will never own their own home. To make house payments it’s around $5000 a month when the basic wage in my area is $1000 a week, both the husband and wife must work, plus raise there children if they have any. And our politicians give themselves pay rises and a retirement funded government pension for life that’s is rather a large sum of money. 
It is wrong with what Australia has  become in regards to a recession! 

[gyuseppe]

Richard, this is exactly what has been happening here for 40 years. Luckily, I have a large house with a garden. My house is now worth a lot of money, and having a garden is something very few can afford. Most people live in condominiums, where arguments between neighbors are the order of the day. I have to thank my parents and my in-laws (who have always worked honestly) if I now own a beautiful villa.

[Mazat]

On 11/28/2025 at 9:36 PM, happypalms said:

A nice little order from RPS. After somewhat of customs debacle arriving a bit later than normal. The details of the holdup are to long to put in words but let’s say phone calls and emails many of which later where the order of the 6 week delay. Not good customs Australia! 
With the Australian government boosting funding for our bio security control they need to get there money back from the importers and the new paperwork (emails) logistics and changes in protocol are taking there toll on importers. 
Many are not bothering anymore to import with importers taking big hits in there bank accounts thanks to the government. 
 

great selection 🤗

[happypalms]

21 hours ago, Mazat said:

great selection 🤗

I have yet to see how many germinate, time will tell!

[happypalms]

21 hours ago, Mazat said:

great selection 🤗

I have yet to see how many germinate, time will tell!

 

On 12/2/2025 at 8:39 PM, gyuseppe said:

Richard, this is exactly what has been happening here for 40 years. Luckily, I have a large house with a garden. My house is now worth a lot of money, and having a garden is something very few can afford. Most people live in condominiums, where arguments between neighbors are the order of the day. I have to thank my parents and my in-laws (who have always worked honestly) if I now own a beautiful villa.

Iam so lucky I own my home and the banks don’t get my money. 
I live in a area that has a lot of bush away from the rat race, I don’t here my neighbours like they do in town. 
I built my own home and never borrowed any money from the banks. 
Ileft school at age 16 and got a job and have worked ever since I left school!

[Than]

I am actually impressed that your customs and duties employees answer the phone! That would never happen here. There is nobody to talk to if you have an objection or complaint, or even a question. 

[gyuseppe]

19 minutes ago, happypalms said:

Iam so lucky I own my home and the banks don’t get my money. 
I live in a area that has a lot of bush away from the rat race, I don’t here my neighbours like they do in town. 
I built my own home and never borrowed any money from the banks. 
Ileft school at age 16 and got a job and have worked ever since I left school!

Richard, are we twins? It's the same life I led! I left school at 16 and started working in the family business. My house is isolated, far from the chaos of the city.👌

[gyuseppe]

20 minutes ago, Than said:

I am actually impressed that your customs and duties employees answer the phone! That would never happen here. There is nobody to talk to if you have an objection or complaint, or even a question. 

They answer here, but we are the ones who pay their monthly salaries with the customs duties.

[Than]

45 minutes ago, gyuseppe said:

They answer here, but we are the ones who pay their monthly salaries with the customs duties.

We also pay their salaries but no answer. I could say it's the public service I hate the most. Everywhere else you can at least go and find someone to complaint.

[happypalms]

On 11/29/2025 at 10:21 PM, Booyong ridge said:

Quite a few of these species are ones that customs destroyed from my order that arrived less than a month ago. 😒 bit of a lucky dip as to whether they make it through or not. Perhaps it depends on whether the inspecting agent got their fix the night before. 🤨

Perhaps the night before or a past argument might have been the contributing factor 🤣
or as you say the same seeds destroyed perhaps a dud batch, it’s not the sellers fault a lot can go wrong once a seed is placed inside a plastic bag, not the natural habitat of a seed that’s for sure! 

[happypalms]

10 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

Richard, are we twins? It's the same life I led! I left school at 16 and started working in the family business. My house is isolated, far from the chaos of the city.👌

Yes so long as the world leaves me alone iam happy, but come through my gate and start looking for trouble they will find it. A lot of successful people have left school early. We both own our home so that’s a good place to start, but happiness and health is the most important in life! 

[happypalms]

9 hours ago, Than said:

We also pay their salaries but no answer. I could say it's the public service I hate the most. Everywhere else you can at least go and find someone to complaint.

I don’t have a problem the staff of the government they are doing a job. It’s the government that are a problem showing total disrespect with no common sense! 

[happypalms]

11 hours ago, Than said:

I am actually impressed that your customs and duties employees answer the phone! That would never happen here. There is nobody to talk to if you have an objection or complaint, or even a question. 

It depends what time of day or what day they answer, There is a call centre they answer not a problem, it’s the departments of fisheries and agriculture that are particularly fussy about when they answer. It depends on the office there all different in each state, but the ladies in the office are great to deal with, but I will say politeness goes a long way there human like us all and a lot of people abuse them it’s not there fault a packet of seeds goes mouldy! 

[PalmsandLiszt]

On 12/1/2025 at 7:25 PM, happypalms said:

Might have to start a go fund me page 🤣🤣🤣

 

Daylight robbery. Even considering that $AUS are rather less than USD. A stealth tax dressed up as environmentalism.

I'm interested to hear how you do with the C. parvifrons as they are on my shopping list (stunning palm). I tried I. palmuncula seeds a year or two back but had no success.

[happypalms]

1 hour ago, PalmsandLiszt said:

Daylight robbery. Even considering that $AUS are rather less than USD. A stealth tax dressed up as environmentalism.

I'm interested to hear how you do with the C. parvifrons as they are on my shopping list (stunning palm). I tried I. palmuncula seeds a year or two back but had no success.

Yep a legal way gor them to keep there jobs, even if it’s ten dollar pack of seeds they slug you for the same amount. They just want there slice of the pie. I had good success with palmuncula from a different supplier, so thought i might get a few more seeds and see! 

[gyuseppe]

9 hours ago, happypalms said:

Yes so long as the world leaves me alone iam happy, but come through my gate and start looking for trouble they will find it. A lot of successful people have left school early. We both own our home so that’s a good place to start, but happiness and health is the most important in life! 

Richard, luckily I live in isolation. I think that if I lived in an apartment building I wouldn't be able to defend myself. Here people fight over trivial things, but we are intelligent and we move on. We just want peace and to see our beautiful plants. Luckily, God gave me a son who is not like me. He would know how to defend himself in this world that has become worse than a jungle.

[happypalms]

2 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

Richard, luckily I live in isolation. I think that if I lived in an apartment building I wouldn't be able to defend myself. Here people fight over trivial things, but we are intelligent and we move on. We just want peace and to see our beautiful plants. Luckily, God gave me a son who is not like me. He would know how to defend himself in this world that has become worse than a jungle.

I couldn’t live in suburbia, they wouldn’t want me anyway, I play my music loud and not enough room to garden. And also I don’t need to hear people abusing each other life is to shirt to ague with people. It takes more of a man to walk away from a fight than it does to have a fight. Let them have there rat race, town is not for me give me the freedom of living in peace in the Australian bush!

[gyuseppe]

3 hours ago, happypalms said:

I couldn’t live in suburbia, they wouldn’t want me anyway, I play my music loud and not enough room to garden. And also I don’t need to hear people abusing each other life is to shirt to ague with people. It takes more of a man to walk away from a fight than it does to have a fight. Let them have there rat race, town is not for me give me the freedom of living in peace in the Australian bush!

Richard, if you lived in the city, you definitely couldn't turn the radio on full blast! When my wife and I had our shop, it was in a densely populated area. There was a neighbor who turned the radio on full blast. Other people would tell her to turn it down, but they said it rudely, arrogantly, and even swear at her. One day I said to my wife, "You're a woman like her, go talk to her." My wife first said, "Excuse me, I'd like to speak to you politely."Then she asked him please if he could please turn down the radio. Finally, as he was leaving, said, "Thank you and sorry for the inconvenience." The lady couldn't stand it, she turned the radio off completely. Not only did she always turn it down from that day on, but I'm also starting to become our customer. This shows that with politeness and kindness, you can achieve a lot.
I also listen to songs on YouTube, especially songs from the '80s. but at low volume!

If you lived near me and you wouldn't turn down the radio, I'd definitely hit you on the head! 😄  (I'm obviously kidding, Richard.)

[happypalms]

A few confusa that are turning out to be quite happy growing well. They seem to like what iam doing and there microclimate in the greenhouse, iam kinda glad I got another hundred seeds the other week. Another smallish dypsis for the understory in the garden! 

[happypalms]

A super rare raphis and as variegated raphis palm grower I just love this variety, I got a few seeds a while back and quite happy about having them in the collection. Iam sure it will be a few years before I can really do anything with them in the ways of propagation and planting them in the garden. 

[kinzyjr]

This thread is now a merge with the following:

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Quite honestly, a seed-starting encyclopedia.  Please continue to update this thread with any additional seed starting.

[happypalms]

On 3/3/2024 at 2:47 PM, happypalms said:

I was  fortunate enough to purchase some orania palindan seeds at PACSOA annual plant sale time will tell how successful they are in germinating and growing in my climate you gotta give it go being a true collector of palms with some winners and losers 

Update on these orania, nothing germinated! 

[Harry’s Palms]

Sorry to hear it. It wasn’t without trying . Harry

[happypalms]

30 minutes ago, Harry’s Palms said:

Sorry to hear it. It wasn’t without trying . Harry

I was a bit disappointed actually, they were a pacsoa purchase from palm and cycad society, one would at least think they were good to go! It may have been the germinaters fault! 

[Harry’s Palms]

6 hours ago, happypalms said:

I was a bit disappointed actually, they were a pacsoa purchase from palm and cycad society, one would at least think they were good to go! It may have been the germinaters fault! 

Different seeds have different requirements , as I am learning. You have the set up to give them every chance of success , with your experience . Harry

[Jdash]

@happypalms thanks for putting all this in a thread! I like reading through the pages, super convenient source!

[happypalms]

7 hours ago, Jdash said:

@happypalms thanks for putting all this in a thread! I like reading through the pages, super convenient source!

You can thank @kinzyjr he’s the genius behind this one, I grow palms and iam far from being a computer genius. And thanks for him doing so I have no idea about computers! 

[happypalms]

9 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

Different seeds have different requirements , as I am learning. You have the set up to give them every chance of success , with your experience . Harry

I thought it may have been grower mistake, I get a batch of seeds that need cool temperatures to germinate, and i ask  the cold climate growers, you learn as you grow, licuala seeds like scarification, licuala triphylla love constant high temperatures, Howea not so around 22 degrees Celsius for those ones. It’s alll a learning curve and the great thing about this forum we all learn from other growers!

Richard

[Harry’s Palms]

As I dip my toe into the germination pond I have relied on others here as well….like you . I was told not to heat the Decipiens seeds , just let them be . I am still waiting after over 2 months but that is normal according to Terry Sullivan . I got impatient so last weekend I did the baggie on top of the water heater trick with another batch to see if that will speed things up a bit . I have three different batches right now as well as many sown throughout the garden. Dave has given me a few different species of seeds as well , all in community pots in the garage . Harry

[Harry’s Palms]

The first time I’ve seen Rhapis seedlings . I would have not guessed what they are with the narrow strap leaf. Harry

[kinzyjr]

7 hours ago, happypalms said:

You can thank @kinzyjr he’s the genius behind this one, I grow palms and iam far from being a computer genius. And thanks for him doing so I have no idea about computers! 

The real genius is in the collection of posts showing all of these seeds and the techniques used. 

Putting them all together required a list of URLs from a search and a merge button. 😄

[happypalms]

2 hours ago, kinzyjr said:

The real genius is in the collection of posts showing all of these seeds and the techniques used. 

Putting them all together required a list of URLs from a search and a merge button. 😄

Thanks for doing that greatly appreciated, I don’t even know what a URLs is let alone copy and paste. Cheers 

Richard 

[happypalms]

8 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

As I dip my toe into the germination pond I have relied on others here as well….like you . I was told not to heat the Decipiens seeds , just let them be . I am still waiting after over 2 months but that is normal according to Terry Sullivan . I got impatient so last weekend I did the baggie on top of the water heater trick with another batch to see if that will speed things up a bit . I have three different batches right now as well as many sown throughout the garden. Dave has given me a few different species of seeds as well , all in community pots in the garage . Harry

See I learnt something today on palmtalk they don’t need heat, luckily the ones I put in were not to warm and I removed them from the heat. 
Thanks Harry 

Richard 

[happypalms]

On 12/10/2025 at 4:14 PM, Harry’s Palms said:

The first time I’ve seen Rhapis seedlings . I would have not guessed what they are with the narrow strap leaf. Harry

There’s always a first time for anything in life, I have a box full of multifida seedlings just little strap seedlings that look like trachycarpus seedlings. 
Bismark are the ones that amaze me from strap leaf to those giant fan leaves!

Richard 

[peachy]

I have never even noticed Rhapis flowering.  They multiply so quickly once they are established in the ground, even to the point of being a menace in some situations.  This of course doesn't apply to the variegated species, just the common ones sold everywhere.

Peachy

[happypalms]

3 hours ago, peachy said:

I have never even noticed Rhapis flowering.  They multiply so quickly once they are established in the ground, even to the point of being a menace in some situations.  This of course doesn't apply to the variegated species, just the common ones sold everywhere.

Peachy

They will set seeds in my garden, if the possum’s don’t get them before anything can be done with them. 
Iam currently digging all my green ones out of the main garden along with a clump of variegated rhapis. Had enough of the great big suckers producing a mass of canes, bring that roundup with you please.

Richard

[happypalms]

The colours of palm seeds are incredible and so beautiful!