Dypsis plumosa black colour. Anyone else seen seedlings do this?

[happypalms]

I have one dypsis plumosa that from a batch of 50 seeds is almost black in colour.  It’s incredible the darkness I have never seen this one before in all the ones I have grown. Has anyone seen this before with the plumosa. 

[Mazat]

2 minutes ago, happypalms said:

I have one dypsis plumosa that from a batch of 50 seeds is almost black in colour.  It’s incredible the darkness I have never seen this one before in all the ones I have grown. Has anyone seen this before with the plumosa. 

Very, very special. No, of course we never have. It's definitely great. What is it about it, or is it just magic? 

[happypalms]

22 minutes ago, Mazat said:

Very, very special. No, of course we never have. It's definitely great. What is it about it, or is it just magic? 

Well if it’s magic it’s black magic. Would be a great name for a palm variety black magic! 

[Mazat]

12 minutes ago, happypalms said:

Well if it’s magic it’s black magic. Would be a great name for a palm variety black magic! 

Yes, Richard. That would be the appropriate name and actually a new species, or unique if it only occurs in this specimen. Absolutely fascinating...

It's actually terrible when there are people who can no longer see the trees and nature for the forest.

The saying actually goes: can't see the forest for the trees...

[happypalms]

9 minutes ago, Mazat said:

Yes, Richard. That would be the appropriate name and actually a new species, or unique if it only occurs in this specimen. Absolutely fascinating...

It's actually terrible when there are people who can no longer see the trees and nature for the forest.

The saying actually goes: can't see the forest for the trees...

Well a bit of black magic would help them see the forest through the trees!

[Mazat]

5 minutes ago, happypalms said:

Well a bit of black magic would help them see the forest through the trees!

😁

[gyuseppe]

We don't believe in magic, but you will all agree with me when I say that Richard is lucky!

[Hu Palmeras]

Anyone who believes in black magic will be burned alive. Those are the rules. So, gentlemen, be careful.

[Mazat]

37 minutes ago, Hu Palmeras said:

Anyone who believes in black magic will be burned alive. Those are the rules. So, gentlemen, be careful.

Yes, Hugo. White healing magic, divine, shamanic magic. My father-in-law has been practicing this for a long time. Gratitude is just one of the words for it, because I have had many injuries in my still young life, also due to doing a lot of sports, unfortunately. Everything is gone now, and I am eternally grateful for that. I didn't really want to talk about it now, as some people are skeptical, which is fine, because everyone is entitled to their opinion, but we use it every day, even on plants, as best we can...

 

[Hu Palmeras]

I understand Mazat. Switzerland is a beautiful country.

[Harry’s Palms]

No magic , just a really cool anomaly. I hope it keeps this trait as it matures . It will make a unique specimen. If you grow enough palms , certain anomalies can happen . I have grown so many Kentia palms since 1990 and I have my “ Super Kentia” , a fast growing , large footed palm (elephant) . It is very unique and a stand out . It was when it was a seedling 20+ years ago and still is . Harry

[Mazat]

1 hour ago, Harry’s Palms said:

No magic , just a really cool anomaly. I hope it keeps this trait as it matures . It will make a unique specimen. If you grow enough palms , certain anomalies can happen . I have grown so many Kentia palms since 1990 and I have my “ Super Kentia” , a fast growing , large footed palm (elephant) . It is very unique and a stand out . It was when it was a seedling 20+ years ago and still is . Harry

A wonderful story with your Kentia, Harry 🤗. How tall is she ?

[Harry’s Palms]

2 hours ago, Mazat said:

A wonderful story with your Kentia, Harry 🤗. How tall is she ?

About 7’ of smooth trunk and not that old . There is one only a year younger that just started trunking a couple years ago. Overall height probably 15’ or more! It came from a Kentia farm I was selling seeds to. They had an area outside the huge greenhouse where volunteer sprouts were. The owner said I could take as many as I wanted . There was one sprout that had very fat petiole and dark green primary leaf . I dug it up , along with a few others that I gave away . There were hundreds of sprouts in one area. The super one just looked like a different palm it was so robust! Harry

[Mazat]

8 minutes ago, Harry’s Palms said:

About 7’ of smooth trunk and not that old . There is one only a year younger that just started trunking a couple years ago. Overall height probably 15’ or more! It came from a Kentia farm I was selling seeds to. They had an area outside the huge greenhouse where volunteer sprouts were. The owner said I could take as many as I wanted . There was one sprout that had very fat petiole and dark green primary leaf . I dug it up , along with a few others that I gave away . There were hundreds of sprouts in one area. The super one just looked like a different palm it was so robust! Harry

That's interesting, Harry and it's good to meet someone who enjoys it themselves. But it's quite a size. She seems to be doing very well with you. She used to have trouble with lower temperatures in general ?, but I know you rarely have temperatures below 5 degrees Celsius, as I remember from other reports you've written. It would be much better here if the maximum temperature in future were around -5 degrees Celsius, but at least it's a step in the right direction.

[Harry’s Palms]

The Howea on the left ( next to the Triangle Palm ) is about a year or so younger than the one on the right. The Super Kentia ( just a name I gave it) has a foot on it that flares out , more so than most . The shear speed of this palm is amazing , some type of anomaly that is unique to this guy. To most , just a healthy palm , but to me it is something special. This was taken a year or so ago , I think. It is even larger now , with seeds.

    If the Black Petiole Plumosa retains its unique color it will be far more obvious to casual observation. Harry

[Mazat]

2 minutes ago, Harry’s Palms said:

The Howea on the left ( next to the Triangle Palm ) is about a year or so younger than the one on the right. The Super Kentia ( just a name I gave it) has a foot on it that flares out , more so than most . The shear speed of this palm is amazing , some type of anomaly that is unique to this guy. To most , just a healthy palm , but to me it is something special. This was taken a year or so ago , I think. It is even larger now , with seeds.

    If the Black Petiole Plumosa retains its unique color it will be far more obvious to casual observation. Harry

Harry, I think your name is absolutely perfect, because it makes it unique—every palm tree is unique, but I, and Sabine too, think this name sums it up perfectly, and it simply deserves it. Exotic plants, other plants, and animals can also be given appreciative names. This special growth is a miracle.
Otto (a childhood friend) recently showed me pictures of a pink dolphin—he was traveling abroad on business between Hong Kong and Macau. For him, it was a miracle dolphin ...

 

[Mazat]

18 minutes ago, Harry’s Palms said:

The Howea on the left ( next to the Triangle Palm ) is about a year or so younger than the one on the right. The Super Kentia ( just a name I gave it) has a foot on it that flares out , more so than most . The shear speed of this palm is amazing , some type of anomaly that is unique to this guy. To most , just a healthy palm , but to me it is something special. This was taken a year or so ago , I think. It is even larger now , with seeds.

    If the Black Petiole Plumosa retains its unique color it will be far more obvious to casual observation. Harry

If the Black Petiole Plumosa retains its unique color it will be far more obvious to casual observation. Harry.

- Absolutely, Harry.

[happypalms]

8 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

We don't believe in magic, but you will all agree with me when I say that Richard is lucky!

Then for you gyuseppe we shall name change it to magic smiles!

[happypalms]

8 hours ago, Hu Palmeras said:

Anyone who believes in black magic will be burned alive. Those are the rules. So, gentlemen, be careful.

Yes those are the rules, but what is it they say rules were meant to be broken!

[Hu Palmeras]

You make the rules. Go ahead, Richard. We're just living like cockroaches in this life.

[happypalms]

6 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

No magic , just a really cool anomaly. I hope it keeps this trait as it matures . It will make a unique specimen. If you grow enough palms , certain anomalies can happen . I have grown so many Kentia palms since 1990 and I have my “ Super Kentia” , a fast growing , large footed palm (elephant) . It is very unique and a stand out . It was when it was a seedling 20+ years ago and still is . Harry

No magic was used in the making, just pure luck. I often hear of different coloured baronii varieties, so with dypsis species it’s no wonder you get sports. 
But definitely a strange anomaly for sure I shall be keeping a close eye this one and the palm that produced the seeds. There are baronii in the same area of the garden but iam not sure if they hybridise dypsis species I suppose it is possible. 
I have two variegated kentia so kentia are known for doing crazy things as well, and with them being propagated by the millions over the years you’re bound to get some strange sports in amongst them, and you’re one is one of those sports Harry.

Richard

[happypalms]

1 minute ago, Hu Palmeras said:

You make the rules. Go ahead, Richard. We're just living like cockroaches in this life.

Oh I don’t make them, I just break them🤣

[Stevetoad]

I dont want to be a party pooper but most if not all the d.plumosa seedings I've seen look like this. they always catch my eye when im at the nurseries.  Ive seen the same seedlings grow up and they loos this trait as they get bigger. The place I got mine from had about 100 of them all looking like this. I can't say if it is indeed a rare trait but I've had to have seen hundreds of them by now and I would say that a green seedling is a rarer. reminds me a lot of how livistona mariae starts out. 

[Hu Palmeras]

Yes, some growers may have it blacker than others.

[happypalms]

1 hour ago, Stevetoad said:

I dont want to be a party pooper but most if not all the d.plumosa seedings I've seen look like this. they always catch my eye when im at the nurseries.  Ive seen the same seedlings grow up and they loos this trait as they get bigger. The place I got mine from had about 100 of them all looking like this. I can't say if it is indeed a rare trait but I've had to have seen hundreds of them by now and I would say that a green seedling is a rarer. reminds me a lot of how livistona mariae starts out. 

No definitely not I was wondering, I have another batch that are red in colour as well. The only one I get excited about is dypsis black petiole when I spot a coloured one I’m amongst the green ones. 

[happypalms]

1 hour ago, Hu Palmeras said:

Yes, some growers may have it blacker than others.

There was a Nike advertisement in Australia a while ago about black Nike shoes, and the ad was got any blacker than that. 

[Hu Palmeras]

🤭🤭😅

[tim_brissy_13]

Hi Richard,

Im pretty sure I remember someone posting something similar to yours re D plumosa (now Chrysalidocarpus plumosus) seedling colour. Yours seems quite extreme, but I think they can often be quite colourful. Likely it will grow out of the colour, but you never know. 

[happypalms]

12 minutes ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Hi Richard,

Im pretty sure I remember someone posting something similar to yours re D plumosa (now Chrysalidocarpus plumosus) seedling colour. Yours seems quite extreme, but I think they can often be quite colourful. Likely it will grow out of the colour, but you never know. 

I did recently a post about the red plumosa seedlings I had. I will keep an eye on it but for now will stick with the black petiole baronii, a much better palm for sure.