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Butia in my northeast Louisiana yard

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Regular form:

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Smaller form with red fruit:

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Butia eriospatha I grew from RPS seed.  It had no damage in most recent single digit freeze… has taken damage previously but never bad and think fruiting heavily can cause this.

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The one below is supposedly Butia x Jubaea. Only the huge size relative to my other Butias makes me believe this may be true

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Healthy palms!

13 hours ago, ryjohn said:


The one below is supposedly Butia x Jubaea. Only the huge size relative to my other Butias makes me believe this may be true

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Nice palms!  Butia are quite variable so likely just natural variation but if you see hooks at the end of the leaflets on this one it should confirm some Jubaea in the mix.

Jon Sunder

18 hours ago, ryjohn said:

Regular form:

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Smaller form with red fruit:

IMG_2632.thumb.jpeg.ae15d8a4395bcbfdbf142809642c2c7b.jpeg

Butia eriospatha I grew from RPS seed.  It had no damage in most recent single digit freeze… has taken damage previously but never bad and think fruiting heavily can cause this.

IMG_2626.thumb.jpeg.d7ec43267d54cbf7e9cc7cff7ef96840.jpeg

The one below is supposedly Butia x Jubaea. Only the huge size relative to my other Butias makes me believe this may be true

IMG_2603.thumb.jpeg.c0b3cfc46eda59bc01e775869c61c722.jpeg

I have enjoyed seeing your palms grow over the years here and on other forums.

I really like butia eriospatha, and I wish it were more widely available in the US. For having grown yours from seed, you are certainly getting a good pace of growth out of yours.

@ryjohn I especially love that first one. Hands down my favorite. If only I could grow them like that.  Are you more like zone 9 or 8B? 

8 minutes ago, Zone7Bpalmguy said:

@ryjohn I especially love that first one. Hands down my favorite. If only I could grow them like that.  Are you more like zone 9 or 8B? 

First one definitely has the best proportions.

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4 hours ago, SeanK said:

First one definitely has the best proportions.

We had a wicked hail storm two decembers ago that shredded every single palm in my yard… and that one has replaced its fronds the fastest

My Butia eriospatha have grown pretty quickly. Mine have a very impressive curve or “twist” to the fronds. Very green as well, which is unusual for butia. Overall I really like them. 

I grew eriospatha as well alongside odorata.  It definitely was solid green vs the bluish you see in the odorata and the individual leaflets were finer giving it more of a feathery elegant appearance.  2021 (Palmageddon) killed all the eriospatha in Oregon including mine, but odorata survived relatively unscathed.

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19 hours ago, RJ said:

My Butia eriospatha have grown pretty quickly. Mine have a very impressive curve or “twist” to the fronds. Very green as well, which is unusual for butia. Overall I really like them. 

I too notice the twist, green color, and of course the fuzzy spathes.  

13 hours ago, Chester B said:

I grew eriospatha as well alongside odorata.  It definitely was solid green vs the bluish you see in the odorata and the individual leaflets were finer giving it more of a feathery elegant appearance.  2021 (Palmageddon) killed all the eriospatha in Oregon including mine, but odorata survived relatively unscathed.

I too notice the finer, more feathery appearance.  Back when I lived in Philomath, Oregon, Butia grew well, but was subject to frequent spear pull/kill because of the long duration of the winter cool.  Similar spear damage here I think grows out well before any bud rot sets in, since we get some warm events that induce growth even in the winter months.  Butia eriospatha is hardier in my current yard than odorata, but the difference in hardiness of odorata specimens is highly variable, and I have definitely observed flowering/fruiting cycle timing makes particular specimens more susceptible to winter damage in any given year... almost like it removes some antifreeze from the fronds.

5 hours ago, ryjohn said:

I too notice the twist, green color, and of course the fuzzy spathes.  

I too notice the finer, more feathery appearance.  Back when I lived in Philomath, Oregon, Butia grew well, but was subject to frequent spear pull/kill because of the long duration of the winter cool.  Similar spear damage here I think grows out well before any bud rot sets in, since we get some warm events that induce growth even in the winter months.  Butia eriospatha is hardier in my current yard than odorata, but the difference in hardiness of odorata specimens is highly variable, and I have definitely observed flowering/fruiting cycle timing makes particular specimens more susceptible to winter damage in any given year... almost like it removes some antifreeze from the fronds.

Here is mine today, another is about the same size. One more in a pot waiting for next spring. I didn’t count but I bet it put out about a dozen fronds this year. 

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Those two are looking great.  Columbia I imagine is a very similar climate to here in northeast Louisiana.  Probably a good deal more palmy, though, being so close to the native Sabal palmetto range.

12 hours ago, ryjohn said:

Those two are looking great.  Columbia I imagine is a very similar climate to here in northeast Louisiana.  Probably a good deal more palmy, though, being so close to the native Sabal palmetto range.

Perhaps, The Palmetto is the state tree in SC so it certainly gets it's fair share of plantings.  There are a fair share of very old Butia around, especially when you go into the older neighborhoods so it's clearly been successful in our climate. I think much like where you are the heat in the summers really helps them get through any cold snaps in the winter.  

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