Canary Island Date Palm in October (Southern Posavje, Slovenia)

[coconut2024]

Hey! It's 5th October and the weather is becoming cooler but no frost, we did get 0C this morning just for an hour but it is warming up and will get to 18C today. Until November, it's forecasted to not get below freezing, maybe even not until early December. Today, i mulched the roots with dry grass and bark but I'm not planning to protect it with fleece until frost.

It grew 4 leaves this summer which is great.

Here are some pics of the palm:

[SeanK]

0°C already? I don't think your winter will wait another seven to eight weeks. What is the yearly average minimum temperature? Perhaps -12°C?

[coconut2024]

55 minutes ago, SeanK said:

0°C already? I don't think your winter will wait another seven to eight weeks. What is the yearly average minimum temperature? Perhaps -12°C?

It always get to 0 in October atleast once, but you can check for Brežice and it stays above freezing until late November. We are usda zone 8a, but it rarely goes below -6, and it warms up well above freezing many times during winter. Many people here grow oleanders in ground with little to no damage.

[coconut2024]

We are zone 12 by first frost date, which is from 21-30 Novemeber. On newer maps even zone 13. And we get from 50-60 frost days on average and Brežice is very mild for inland Slovenia.

[coconut2024]

1 hour ago, SeanK said:

0°C already? I don't think your winter will wait another seven to eight weeks. What is the yearly average minimum temperature? Perhaps -12°C?

And for the 0C, it was clear sky and mild breeze, so the heat escaped, but it doesnt mean that it's the start of the winter, temps like this often follows weeks of milder weather. In autumm, we still get influenced by the Mediterean, just like you do in Atlanta because of the Ocean and the Gulf of Mexico.

[Mazat]

2 hours ago, coconut2024 said:

Hey! It's 5th October and the weather is becoming cooler but no frost, we did get 0C this morning just for an hour but it is warming up and will get to 18C today. Until November, it's forecasted to not get below freezing, maybe even not until early December. Today, i mulched the roots with dry grass and bark but I'm not planning to protect it with fleece until frost.

It grew 4 leaves this summer which is great.

Here are some pics of the palm:

Andreas, i found this weatherstations:

https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/IBREIC10/graph/2024-01-31/2024-01-31/monthly and this one had -12.8 degrees Celsius in the last 3 years and other they all had -8 degrees Celsius and deeper. So i would protect your little CIDP better earlier than later and not take too much risk.

Good luck and success 🤗

 

 

[coconut2024]

6 minutes ago, Mazat said:

Andreas, i found this weatherstations:

https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/IBREIC10/graph/2024-01-31/2024-01-31/monthly and this one had -12.8 degrees Celsius in the last 3 years and other they all had -8 degrees Celsius and deeper. So i would protect your little CIDP better earlier than later and not take too much risk.

Good luck and success 🤗

 

 

Thanks for the info, also those -8 and even colder happen so so rare, on some winters even not.

[Hu Palmeras]

Your palm tree is very beautiful, my friend. I imagine it's actually a specimen of Phoenix Canariensis.

[coconut2024]

9 minutes ago, Hu Palmeras said:

Your palm tree is very beautiful, my friend. I imagine it's actually a specimen of Phoenix Canariensis.

Thanks! Actually it is a Canary island date palm.

[Hu Palmeras]

There are many of those here in Chile. They're Canariensis date palms. I believe they arrived with the Catholics during the colonial period.

[Mazat]

3 hours ago, Hu Palmeras said:

There are many of those here in Chile. They're Canariensis date palms. I believe they arrived with the Catholics during the colonial period.

Yes, this is a very interresting thought, dear Hugo 🤗

[Hu Palmeras]

Yes, I believe there are many in Switzerland as well. Phoenix Canariensis is the most widely cultivated palm tree in Latin America.

[Hu Palmeras]

6 hours ago, coconut2024 said:

¡Hola! Es 5 de octubre y el clima está refrescando, pero no hay heladas. Esta mañana tuvimos 0 °C solo durante una hora, pero está subiendo y hoy llegará a 18 °C. Hasta noviembre, se pronostica que no bajará de cero, quizás incluso hasta principios de diciembre. Hoy cubrí las raíces con pasto seco y corteza, pero no pienso protegerlas con vellón hasta que hiele.

Le crecieron 4 hojas este verano, lo cual es genial.

Aquí hay algunas fotos de la palma:

Very cool my Friend

[Hu Palmeras]

6 hours ago, SeanK said:

¿Ya 0 °C? No creo que tu invierno espere otras siete u ocho semanas. ¿Cuál es la temperatura mínima media anual? ¿Quizás -12 °C?

You should grow them at home, my friend. They're also very beautiful palm trees.

[SeanK]

6 minutes ago, Hu Palmeras said:

You should grow them at home, my friend. They're also very beautiful palm trees.

The minimum here is approximately 10ºF. Too cold for CIDP. Plus, we get a light snow in a normal winter.

El mínimo aquí es aproximamente -12º. Demasiado frío para CIDP.  Además, en un invierno normal se cae poca nieve.

[Hu Palmeras]

In Chile, there are canarienses and it snows. It's cold. You could try it. Or buy a Jubaea chilensis. I have Michel Lancel, who can sell you a giant one. He'll ship it to you from Chile.

[Ben G.]

Looks like you palm is off to a good start. I hope you have a mild winter and that it continues to grow well for you.

Thank you for posting this. It's great to have representation from palm growers in new locations. Perhaps there are others posting here from Slovenia, but I am not aware of any. 

[Hu Palmeras]

Very cool my Friend🌴🌴🌴🌴🦜🦜🦜🦜

[Hu Palmeras]

Friend, I liked your profile picture. It's very funny, friend.

[coconut2024]

2 hours ago, SeanK said:

The minimum here is approximately 10ºF. Too cold for CIDP. Plus, we get a light snow in a normal winter.

El mínimo aquí es aproximamente -12º. Demasiado frío para CIDP.  Además, en un invierno normal se cae poca nieve.

Same thing here, light snow but 50 years ago, whole winter with -20 and snow all winter long.

[coconut2024]

1 hour ago, Ben G. said:

Looks like you palm is off to a good start. I hope you have a mild winter and that it continues to grow well for you.

Thank you for posting this. It's great to have representation from palm growers in new locations. Perhaps there are others posting here from Slovenia, but I am not aware of any. 

Thanks for the hopes. What about you in Texas? Does it get cold there, i mean I was once in USA and i was in New Mexico, Alberqueare and it was very cold but no snow.

[Hu Palmeras]

1 hour ago, Ben G. said:

Parece que tu palmera ha empezado bien. Espero que tengas un invierno suave y que siga creciendo bien.

Gracias por publicar esto. Es fantástico tener representación de los palmicultores en nuevas ubicaciones. Quizás haya otros publicando aquí desde Eslovenia, pero no conozco ninguno. 

Friend, you should grow them. They are palm trees, and there are many of them in Chile.

[jwitt]

3 hours ago, coconut2024 said:

Thanks for the hopes. What about you in Texas? Does it get cold there, i mean I was once in USA and i was in New Mexico, Alberqueare and it was very cold but no snow.

I knew an Andrew from Slovenia working in Rio Rancho, was that you? 

[Hu Palmeras]

Friends, these Phoenix Canariensis palm trees are the first to reach the American continent. They arrived along with the date palms brought by the Spanish.

[SeanK]

6 hours ago, Hu Palmeras said:

In Chile, there are canarienses and it snows. It's cold. You could try it. Or buy a Jubaea chilensis. I have Michel Lancel, who can sell you a giant one. He'll ship it to you from Chile.

Do you recall 20 years ago that Chile sent juvenile Jubaeas to Easter Island? The palms were marked for N/S so they could be oriented the same at planting as they were at excavation.

[Hu Palmeras]

Good news, my friend. There are Cocos nucifera trees on Rapa Nui (Easter Island). These coconut trees were brought to Rapa Nui from Tahiti (French Polynesia).

[Ben G.]

4 hours ago, coconut2024 said:

Thanks for the hopes. What about you in Texas? Does it get cold there, i mean I was once in USA and i was in New Mexico, Alberqueare and it was very cold but no snow.

In this part of Texas it can get cold, but the cold is usually short-lived. Most days in winter here still have high temperatures in the 17C to 25C range. (Dec, Jan, and Feb) 

We are currently still quite warm at this time of the year though. We are still still consistently experiencing highs of 32C to 37C and lows of 20C to 25C.

I am in an area that is USDA zone 9a officially, but I am trying to plant my garden with occasional 8b lows in mind.

[Ben G.]

3 hours ago, Hu Palmeras said:

Friend, you should grow them. They are palm trees, and there are many of them in Chile.

I do have one phoenix canariensis in a pot currently. I am not sure if I will ever have enough room for it in my current garden though. I also have some other small Phoenix palms in pots as well, like dactylifera and sylvestris. 

I also have one dactylifera planted in the ground though.

In my part of Texas a bad freeze in 2021 killed many of the Phoenix palms, though quite a few canariensis survived. We have plenty of heat for Phoenix to thrive in Texas, but occasional deep freezes and disease make it hard to grow them in some parts of the state.

[Hu Palmeras]

I recommend growing a Jubaea chilensis, 2 or 3 meters tall, and protecting it in winter so it can establish itself properly.

[Hu Palmeras]

Come on, Donald Trump, you have to get back on your feet, buddy. You never thought you'd like palm trees, buddy. Come on, give me 5.

[Hu Palmeras]

3 hours ago, Ben G. said:

En esta parte de Texas puede hacer frío, pero suele ser de corta duración. La mayoría de los días de invierno aquí todavía tienen temperaturas máximas de entre 17 °C y 25 °C (diciembre, enero y febrero). 

Sin embargo, en esta época del año todavía hace bastante calor. Seguimos experimentando temperaturas máximas constantes de entre 32 °C y 37 °C y mínimas de entre 20 °C y 25 °C.

Estoy en un área que oficialmente es zona 9a del USDA, pero estoy tratando de plantar mi jardín teniendo en cuenta las ocasionales temperaturas mínimas de 8b.

Very cool my Friend🌴🌴🌴🌴🌴🦜🦜🦜💪💪💪

[coconut2024]

9 hours ago, jwitt said:

I knew an Andrew from Slovenia working in Rio Rancho, was that you? 

Nope.

[Mazat]

10 hours ago, Ben G. said:

In this part of Texas it can get cold, but the cold is usually short-lived. Most days in winter here still have high temperatures in the 17C to 25C range. (Dec, Jan, and Feb) 

We are currently still quite warm at this time of the year though. We are still still consistently experiencing highs of 32C to 37C and lows of 20C to 25C.

I am in an area that is USDA zone 9a officially, but I am trying to plant my garden with occasional 8b lows in mind.

I think that's a good strategy you're pursuing, Ben.
From that perspective, even if very low temperatures occur, you are reasonably prepared, so to speak. The USDA zone can be disregarded at any time, so from that perspective, the absolute minimum temperatures are a good indicator of what could happen. A worst-case scenario is tedious but forward-thinking...
We always think positively here. I have to laugh, otherwise we wouldn't have exotic species living in much warmer zones than we do...
Challenge is the word 😁

 

[Mazat]

6 hours ago, Hu Palmeras said:

Come on, Donald Trump, you have to get back on your feet, buddy. You never thought you'd like palm trees, buddy. Come on, give me 5.

Hugo, my friend - i give you 10 🤣

[coconut2024]

UPDATE: Until November, there isnt any frost forecasted, lowest about 2C and highest 12 during the night. I did make a cover above the palm and we will have consistent rain for a few days, I don't wanna risk.

[Las Palmas Norte]

On 10/4/2025 at 5:36 AM, coconut2024 said:

Thanks! Actually it is a Canary island date palm.

🤣 THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER.

[Hu Palmeras]

Come on, Donald Trump, I'll miss you, buddy.🌴🌴🤭

[Mazat]

18 minutes ago, Las Palmas Norte said:

🤣 THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER.

I know this is about a CIDP—have you planted another CIDP, and if so, how is it doing? Also, how is your beautiful Washingtonia robusta plant that you grew from seed?

[Mazat]

2 hours ago, coconut2024 said:

UPDATE: No frost is forecast until November, with lows around 34°F and highs around 54°F at night. I've put a cover over the palm tree, and it's going to rain continuously for several days, so I don't want to take any chances.

good choice 👏

[coconut2024]

Oppss!! I forgot to upload pics, so here they are:

 

 

 

Also, weather gonna be pretty good for the next 2 weeks, a few days with lows of 3 to 5 but also 12 and highs from 15 to 22.