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Four palms that are great for the subtropical climate


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All four are great palms, that are easy to grow and cool tolerant down to 2 degrees Celsius. Great palms for that tropical look in the garden. These ones are about 4 years in the ground from 140mm containers. 

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Nice , they all look like winter was not a problem for them . I added a small Dypsis Basilonga (x2) last year and it seemed to handle winter here pretty good . A bit slow but steady. Microspadix is not a problem , the others I don’t have. I am keeping my hopes up that my Chrysalidiocarpus Decipiens babies keep going through winter 🤞. Harry

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22 minutes ago, Harry’s Palms said:

Nice , they all look like winter was not a problem for them . I added a small Dypsis Basilonga (x2) last year and it seemed to handle winter here pretty good . A bit slow but steady. Microspadix is not a problem , the others I don’t have. I am keeping my hopes up that my Chrysalidiocarpus Decipiens babies keep going through winter 🤞. Harry

Start looking for all those small palms to fill in those gaps. Gausia maya would live in your climate and not that overwhelming in size like some palms. I didnt lose any palms in the ground this winter that where new varieties planted. Lost a couple of kerriodoxas but that was out of 20 planted and it wasn’t winter thay got them. 
Richard 

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Richard, here at my place I can only grow Chamaedorea microspadix, but I'm happy with a bright green palm tree and here it grows quickly and also produces lots of seeds.

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2 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

Richard, here at my place I can only grow Chamaedorea microspadix, but I'm happy with a bright green palm tree and here it grows quickly and also produces lots of seeds.

Microspadix is a great palm, such deep green leaves. Adscedans might grow in your garden.

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My basilonga did well this past winter covered in a frost cloth when we dropped well below freezing with frost for about 6 hours.  No real damage and it grows fast enough in summer it has three nice fronds and the older ones.  Promising and tough, planted in a ton of sun in white fine sand with a small leaf layer above, on a microsprayer I run manually when it hasn't rained. Water table is well below the surface by at least 6 feet or so but if it roots deep it can tap that too.  Great color and I plan to try more when I can get them.

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I would guess that area it was in hit about 28 to 29 degrees F, and the saintluceii in front of it rotted out after the cold, even protected (next one of those won't have irrigation). I would guess exposed it would likely have defoliated or died as well, but at only a foot tall and ok, an adult would do fine I think.

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10 hours ago, flplantguy said:

My basilonga did well this past winter covered in a frost cloth when we dropped well below freezing with frost for about 6 hours.  No real damage and it grows fast enough in summer it has three nice fronds and the older ones.  Promising and tough, planted in a ton of sun in white fine sand with a small leaf layer above, on a microsprayer I run manually when it hasn't rained. Water table is well below the surface by at least 6 feet or so but if it roots deep it can tap that too.  Great color and I plan to try more when I can get them.

There a beautiful palm. I like your frost protection idea, I don’t get frost but the area I live in does, very rarely we get the black frost in the valley and that’s a cold morning for sure bit that’s only every 15 years or so. And your in luck I have about 80 of them in tubes so I will plant a heap more for you. 

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10 hours ago, flplantguy said:

I would guess that area it was in hit about 28 to 29 degrees F, and the saintluceii in front of it rotted out after the cold, even protected (next one of those won't have irrigation). I would guess exposed it would likely have defoliated or died as well, but at only a foot tall and ok, an adult would do fine I think.

Luck has it as well saintlucei seedlings in six inch pots and seeds coming on my palm. I curse the cold weather killing palms, you finally get a palm that’s rare, beautiful and usually expensive and the cold kills it. 

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More than 90% of Chamaedoreas are great for cool climates.

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4 hours ago, idontknowhatnametuse said:

More than 90% of Chamaedoreas are great for cool climates.

yes !   I personally experienced it

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4 hours ago, idontknowhatnametuse said:

More than 90% of Chamaedoreas are great for cool climates.

There’s so many to choose from, such a great small understory palm. A lot of palm growers get sidetracked with the larger more robust palms that take sun, missing out on such beautiful chamaedoreas.

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1 minute ago, happypalms said:

There’s so many to choose from, such a great small understory palm. A lot of palm growers get sidetracked with the larger more robust palms that take sun, missing out on such beautiful chamaedoreas.

Richard I totally agree with you, they don't have thorns, they don't take up space and they are beautiful.

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2 minutes ago, gyuseppe said:

Richard I totally agree with you, they don't have thorns, they don't take up space and they are beautiful.

And they grow so well in my garden, I have at least 600 chamaedoreas of all different varieties to plant in my garden. Mass group plantings for seed production in the years to come.

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Unfortunately my experience is that some chamaedoreas need more subtropical conditions. I have a plumosa and linearis that don't do well in my climate.  Whenever a new leave comes up it starts to turn brown from the top.

Try to mist more but currently no big difference. 

Eckhard 

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2 minutes ago, Palmensammler said:

Unfortunately my experience is that some chamaedoreas need more subtropical conditions. I have a plumosa and linearis that don't do well in my climate.  Whenever a new leave comes up it starts to turn brown from the top.

Try to mist more but currently no big difference. 

Eckhard 

They seem to prefer subtropical climates, and cool temperate places without frost. Iam sure there are many that like tropical climates, I do see some chamaedoreas for sale from the hot tropical climates. They can tolerant dry low humidity, I get hot dry conditions and they seem to take it well. 

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