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Melbourne Botanic Gardens - Including Recent Donations


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Jonathan’s recent topic on Mt Coot-tha Botanic Gardens has inspired me to do similar for the Royal Melbourne Botanic Gardens. I’ve been working with some others on increasing their palm collection and will document some of the activity here as well as some of the notable specimens in the gardens. 
 

The RMBG was started in 1846 and is second only to Sydney in terms of age. It occupies a huge 38 hectares (94 acres) with wide expanses of lawn areas and also some more rainforest type gardens. There are some hugely impressive individual palm specimens in the gardens including many planted in the 1800s like a handful of old, huge Jubaeas. However, the palm collection in terms of overall species is relatively modest, recently only around 60-70 species. Melbourne’s climate can be challenging at times, however the gardens have some great microclimates including a large fern gully which is suitable for growing many cool hardy palms like Chamaedorea sp.

In a city of 5 million people and with 2 million visitors to these gardens per year, it is a great opportunity to expand the collection and contribute to conservation of palm species and inspire people that many palms can grow well in Melbourne.

Since the start of this year, we’ve now added over 10 new species to the collection. It’s worth mentioning this isn’t all my work, even of the palms I’ve donated other palm collectors and some Palmtalk members have played a role and can take credit for providing seed and/or growing these plants.
 

Some photos of recent donations and planting:

Oraniopsis appendiculata

 image.thumb.jpeg.9c1a96b3f3c01c852b1591ac5aef6274.jpeg

 

One of these Lepidorrhachis mooreana

image.thumb.jpeg.26d9867c83f3aa58352d2b8dedd09fa7.jpeg

 

In this group:

Chamaedorea costaricana

Chamaedorea nubium

Chamaedorea brachypoda

Syagrus schizophylla

Another Oraniopsis

In the effort of getting seed one day, multiples have been given of Chamaedorea woodsoniana, C tepejilote ‘Yellow Inflorescence’, C elatior ‘Fine Leaf’, C ernesti-augustii

image.thumb.png.011e3a86aff36814e45848cb24997995.png

 

The first Oraniopsis has been planted at RMBG, and the second will be planted at the associated Royal Victorian Botanic Gardens in Cranbourne in the outer South East suburbs which is exclusively a native Australian collection. The remaining palms are planned to be planted this week at the Melbourne gardens. Thanks to the effort of others I understand that some Linospadix apetiolatus have also been recently planted. 
 

Next time I visit I’ll get some photos of the new plantings in their forever home. We’ll be working on continuing to expand the collection. 

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Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

Posted

Well done Tim! I too have donated some palm trees to the Botanical Garden of Naples in the past.

(I didn't know Melbourne has 5 million people!)

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GIUSEPPE

Posted
13 minutes ago, gyuseppe said:

Well done Tim! I too have donated some palm trees to the Botanical Garden of Naples in the past.

(I didn't know Melbourne has 5 million people!)

It is surprising to many that a country with such low population density has such populated cities especially Sydney and Melbourne. 
 

I just looked it up and I short changed Melbourne a tad. As of 2024, it is up to 5,350,000 people compared to Sydney’s 5,557,000. Based on recent growth, Melbourne is expected to overtake Sydney as Australia’s most populated city (including the greater area) any time now. 

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Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

Posted

Good one Tim keep up the work, get those palms in there asap before winter. 
Iam sure you know the varieties that will perform well in the gardens and have some good ideas as to where and what will be planted. 
I will offer my assistance if needed in the way of a few palms that are currently growing or germinating. Colin has been gifting me seeds for such projects. I will pm you on such varieties for you as they become available. 
Richard 

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Posted

Congratulations Tim. Hopefully the start of a long lasting relationship between yourself and the gardens, resulting in a substantial increase in palm diversity. If you're after a particular species for this endevour let me know, I'll assist where I can. 

I've found a great deal of patience (not something that comes naturally to me unfortunately) is required when trying to establish relationships with botanical gardens, but once the trust is there, doors open. I had two vans arrive at my place this morning to collect donations, one from each of Brisbane's botanical gardens (City and Mt. Coot-Tha). Grant Larkin was there who you may know. Can't wait to see the palms planted over the next couple of weeks.

The Curator stated yesterday that the gardens are keen to increase their palm collection and look forward to hearing from me regarding future donations. She also gave me the green light to dust their Cyrtostachys loriae with Cyrtostachys renda pollen when it matures, which I'm really excited about!!!

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For those of you that frequent Facebook, I’ve set up a group called “Pommy palms”, where many of the palms I’ve seen since emigrating to Australia have been documented. If you wish to be a member, copy and paste “Pommy palms” into Facebook to view the page and click “Join group”.

Posted

Good stuff Tim. Building a better world, one palm at a time.

However, I have to stick up for my local patch....

8 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

The RMBG was started in 1846 and is second only to Sydney in terms of age.

....Royal Tasmanian Botanical Gardens, established 1818!

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South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

Posted
7 minutes ago, Jonathan said:

Good stuff Tim. Building a better world, one palm at a time.

However, I have to stick up for my local patch....

....Royal Tasmanian Botanical Gardens, established 1818!

I should know better than to trust ChatGPT! Sorry Taswegians!

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Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

Posted
1 minute ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

I should know better than to trust ChatGPT! Sorry Taswegians!

Lol! Apology accepted.

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South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

Posted
1 minute ago, Jonathan said:

Lol! Apology accepted.

Either way it’s still damm cold in both states!🤣

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Posted

The Botanical Garden of Pisa was founded in 1543,
followed by those of Padua and Florence in 1545.
Then the Botanical Garden of Bologna in 1567.
The Botanical Garden of Rome was founded in 1660 by Pope Alexander VII.
The Botanical Garden of Naples on December 28, 1807.

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GIUSEPPE

Posted

Good on ya Tim! I visited both RTBG the RMBG earlier this year and both were remarkable gardens. Such a worthy endeavor for citizens taking the initiative to contribute to an important public space. 

Our local Zoo was adopted by the Hawai’i Island Palm Society as a palmatum probably 40 years ago and the extensive collection is still regularly maintained by the group. Lots of beautiful specimens donated, planted, and maintained by volunteers. 

There are a couple of impressive private BG’s on the island and a city arboretum, (which has recently REMOVED the palm collection), so the will and foresight by early and current palmaholics are alive and well. 

Tim

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Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

Posted
4 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

The Botanical Garden of Pisa was founded in 1543,
followed by those of Padua and Florence in 1545.
Then the Botanical Garden of Bologna in 1567.
The Botanical Garden of Rome was founded in 1660 by Pope Alexander VII.
The Botanical Garden of Naples on December 28, 1807.

We can't compete with those dates here in Australia...Europeans didn’t arrive here until 1788. I wonder which BG is the oldest in the world?

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South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

Posted
3 hours ago, realarch said:

Good on ya Tim! I visited both RTBG the RMBG earlier this year and both were remarkable gardens. Such a worthy endeavor for citizens taking the initiative to contribute to an important public space. 

Our local Zoo was adopted by the Hawai’i Island Palm Society as a palmatum probably 40 years ago and the extensive collection is still regularly maintained by the group. Lots of beautiful specimens donated, planted, and maintained by volunteers. 

There are a couple of impressive private BG’s on the island and a city arboretum, (which has recently REMOVED the palm collection), so the will and foresight by early and current palmaholics are alive and well. 

Tim

I think there was a thread posted on here a while back about a palm collection that was cut down in Hilo, was that the city arboretum? I have a vague memory that it was something to do with the forestry dept or similar??

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South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

Posted
18 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Jonathan’s recent topic on Mt Coot-tha Botanic Gardens has inspired me to do similar for the Royal Melbourne Botanic Gardens. I’ve been working with some others on increasing their palm collection and will document some of the activity here as well as some of the notable specimens in the gardens. 
 

The RMBG was started in 1846 and is second only to Sydney in terms of age. It occupies a huge 38 hectares (94 acres) with wide expanses of lawn areas and also some more rainforest type gardens. There are some hugely impressive individual palm specimens in the gardens including many planted in the 1800s like a handful of old, huge Jubaeas. However, the palm collection in terms of overall species is relatively modest, recently only around 60-70 species. Melbourne’s climate can be challenging at times, however the gardens have some great microclimates including a large fern gully which is suitable for growing many cool hardy palms like Chamaedorea sp.

In a city of 5 million people and with 2 million visitors to these gardens per year, it is a great opportunity to expand the collection and contribute to conservation of palm species and inspire people that many palms can grow well in Melbourne.

Since the start of this year, we’ve now added over 10 new species to the collection. It’s worth mentioning this isn’t all my work, even of the palms I’ve donated other palm collectors and some Palmtalk members have played a role and can take credit for providing seed and/or growing these plants.
 

Some photos of recent donations and planting:

Oraniopsis appendiculata

 image.thumb.jpeg.9c1a96b3f3c01c852b1591ac5aef6274.jpeg

 

One of these Lepidorrhachis mooreana

image.thumb.jpeg.26d9867c83f3aa58352d2b8dedd09fa7.jpeg

 

In this group:

Chamaedorea costaricana

Chamaedorea nubium

Chamaedorea brachypoda

Syagrus schizophylla

Another Oraniopsis

In the effort of getting seed one day, multiples have been given of Chamaedorea woodsoniana, C tepejilote ‘Yellow Inflorescence’, C elatior ‘Fine Leaf’, C ernesti-augustii

image.thumb.png.011e3a86aff36814e45848cb24997995.png

 

The first Oraniopsis has been planted at RMBG, and the second will be planted at the associated Royal Victorian Botanic Gardens in Cranbourne in the outer South East suburbs which is exclusively a native Australian collection. The remaining palms are planned to be planted this week at the Melbourne gardens. Thanks to the effort of others I understand that some Linospadix apetiolatus have also been recently planted. 
 

Next time I visit I’ll get some photos of the new plantings in their forever home. We’ll be working on continuing to expand the collection. 

Tim, do they have many other native palm species out at Cranbourne? They should be able to grow a fair percentage of them I'd think. That's a garden I've been wanting to have a look at for a while now.

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South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

Posted
20 minutes ago, Jonathan said:

Tim, do they have many other native palm species out at Cranbourne? They should be able to grow a fair percentage of them I'd think. That's a garden I've been wanting to have a look at for a while now.

Not yet but they’re working on it. I last visited maybe a couple of years ago and from memory they only had Livistona australis. Since then I believe they’ve planted some others like Linospadix apetiolatus and soon the Oraniopsis. It is nice out there though and worth a visit. They’ve got some other notable plants including Macrozamia macdonnellii and Wollemia nobilis. 

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Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

Posted
6 hours ago, Jonathan said:

We can't compete with those dates here in Australia...Europeans didn’t arrive here until 1788. I wonder which BG is the oldest in the world?

Hi Jonathan, it is Padua (Padova) before the public one. It had a large collection of plants, especially medicinal plants for study.

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GIUSEPPE

Posted
On 10/1/2025 at 3:26 PM, happypalms said:

Good one Tim keep up the work, get those palms in there asap before winter. 
Iam sure you know the varieties that will perform well in the gardens and have some good ideas as to where and what will be planted. 
I will offer my assistance if needed in the way of a few palms that are currently growing or germinating. Colin has been gifting me seeds for such projects. I will pm you on such varieties for you as they become available. 
Richard 

 

On 10/1/2025 at 6:57 PM, Jonathan Haycock said:

Congratulations Tim. Hopefully the start of a long lasting relationship between yourself and the gardens, resulting in a substantial increase in palm diversity. If you're after a particular species for this endevour let me know, I'll assist where I can. 

I've found a great deal of patience (not something that comes naturally to me unfortunately) is required when trying to establish relationships with botanical gardens, but once the trust is there, doors open. I had two vans arrive at my place this morning to collect donations, one from each of Brisbane's botanical gardens (City and Mt. Coot-Tha). Grant Larkin was there who you may know. Can't wait to see the palms planted over the next couple of weeks.

The Curator stated yesterday that the gardens are keen to increase their palm collection and look forward to hearing from me regarding future donations. She also gave me the green light to dust their Cyrtostachys loriae with Cyrtostachys renda pollen when it matures, which I'm really excited about!!!

Thanks for the offer guys. It would be great to expand their collection so I might be in touch if there’s anything you’ve got suitable for down here that I’m not already growing for them. I might monitor how this first batch goes first and see how they are cared for and grow. 
 

@Jonathan Haycock I do remember Grant back from the P4B nursery, been a long time!

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Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

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Posted

My first visit to the gardens since the new plantings have gone in. Pleased to report most are doing well. Only one of the 3 Chamaedorea woodsoniana looks like it’s been beat up but all others look to be settling in nicely. Some of the older established specimens are looking great too. 

Chamaedorea woodsoniana

IMG_9897.thumb.jpeg.05c1dfcb7e9b186d0af14d14cd247094.jpeg
 

Syagrus schizophylla

IMG_9901.thumb.jpeg.54c0ac54e82da7487762e9c62db444d4.jpeg
 

Lepidorrhachis mooreana

IMG_9909.thumb.jpeg.75e0d260087001ec5ac1eb8cad6f4fa6.jpeg

 

Oraniopsis appendiculata

IMG_9910.thumb.jpeg.4a7066ce4c0d5b279e3dd8713ffe70c8.jpeg

 

Chamaedorea brachypoda in the background

IMG_9941.thumb.jpeg.8102f5336bc955d34dacd50d3351b6c1.jpeg

 

Chamaedorea costaricana

IMG_9943.thumb.jpeg.45005a24f5039b662c32144a0ad0a418.jpeg

 

Linospadix apetiolatus

IMG_9940.thumb.jpeg.db47c53df5b3023f2054ee61b88944c9.jpeg

 

Chambeyronia macrocarpa

IMG_9874.thumb.jpeg.adcb98f68b3cf8d76436d6bf97e477c0.jpeg

 

Rhopalostylis sapida

IMG_9876.thumb.jpeg.b9d870aa5a07f70fae2554e0add90c0a.jpeg

 

Archontophoenix maxima 

IMG_9879.thumb.jpeg.e3f501dd370a43f31ba4df349076fd99.jpeg

 

Hedyscepe canterburyana 

IMG_9881.thumb.jpeg.246324e63ed8aa6de79e379e10ea7ed7.jpeg

 

Bismarckia nobilis

IMG_9883.thumb.jpeg.e9a3c76ea87a900a76de6e4725ab0b4f.jpeg

 

Parajubaea cocoides

IMG_9886.thumb.jpeg.c3b9ac9e17ae989004c64f007572d1c2.jpeg

 

Caryota obtusa

IMG_9888.thumb.jpeg.87e84378ca5d187c7a318dbadac32ab3.jpeg

 

Hedyscepe canterburyana 

IMG_9892.thumb.jpeg.06f6ace426ecf9d10a5d2df3a1a0bcd8.jpeg

 

Chamaedorea sp (maybe potchutlensis)

IMG_9894.thumb.jpeg.73d99db4497a476cff2e5ef1a7130e45.jpeg

 

Ravenea glauca (Isalo form)

IMG_9895.thumb.jpeg.d448daa1ba432c8da334e95ea352b6dc.jpeg

 

Rhapis humilis

IMG_9917.thumb.jpeg.f862773f6a724cbe80c929f51aafed07.jpeg
 

Howea belmoreana

 

IMG_9920.thumb.jpeg.2d19cc7d726a81fd94ba2618b48dbeac.jpeg

Livistona saribus

IMG_9922.thumb.jpeg.0574c4b6782ca7a4bc8402ad7b394f9f.jpeg

Linospadix minor

IMG_9926.thumb.jpeg.f59128cbb442deb3e34e361f46bbcc27.jpeg
 

Chamaedorea elatior

IMG_9927.thumb.jpeg.c711dc2826ad7eb6dbca237600c4bbb3.jpeg

IMG_9929.thumb.jpeg.a48145620f8080fd9ed51e77ba5687ac.jpeg

 

Jubaea chilensis

IMG_9960.thumb.jpeg.093b0ddc15ff099313b9f793e6104f25.jpeg

 

Brahea Super Silver

IMG_9962.thumb.jpeg.0d5b71d45f73a8a3f1fd0e2a3390669c.jpeg

 

Brahea armata

IMG_9963.thumb.jpeg.2e3f42ccd80baf3a17bb09e736a17283.jpeg

 

Livistona fulva

IMG_9961.thumb.jpeg.4cf546ab3c25ad98996704fa33e6bb4b.jpeg

IMG_9965.thumb.jpeg.b6f0d11491d019398836eb399077dbb2.jpeg

 

Livistona nitida 

IMG_9966.thumb.jpeg.1189a2e1af174a2e7e7c5a8a136da75b.jpeg

 

Chamaedorea costaricana

IMG_9943.thumb.jpeg.e4ae14341e4ee4e7c94376407b27be76.jpeg

Chambeyronia macrocarpa var hookeri

IMG_9914.thumb.jpeg.7ab8caa6aca8b8b6183fd06007999743.jpeg
 

Beccariophoenix alfredii

IMG_9887.thumb.jpeg.4a8bc118fa5b3bd616a2b4bc02ba2dae.jpeg

 

 

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Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

Posted

That's a nice collection Tim, although it scares me a bit to see the little Lepidorrhachis hidden in the bushes where it could be squashed by feral child or careless gardener. 

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South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

Posted
39 minutes ago, Jonathan said:

That's a nice collection Tim, although it scares me a bit to see the little Lepidorrhachis hidden in the bushes where it could be squashed by feral child or careless gardener. 

I know what you mean mate it does still look small and vulnerable. It’s a on bit of a slope that is permanently moist and slippery just above the running stream through the fern gully so it’s not somewhere the general public will walk, and if a feral child did they’d risk slipping into the water. I’ve made sure the only gardeners in this area are very aware of how special this thing is so I think it’s quite well protected for now. I might ask why they didn’t put any barriers around it like they did for others like the C woodsoniana. 

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Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

Posted
On 10/1/2025 at 6:57 PM, Jonathan Haycock said:

Congratulations Tim. Hopefully the start of a long lasting relationship between yourself and the gardens, resulting in a substantial increase in palm diversity. If you're after a particular species for this endevour let me know, I'll assist where I can. 

I've found a great deal of patience (not something that comes naturally to me unfortunately) is required when trying to establish relationships with botanical gardens, but once the trust is there, doors open. I had two vans arrive at my place this morning to collect donations, one from each of Brisbane's botanical gardens (City and Mt. Coot-Tha). Grant Larkin was there who you may know. Can't wait to see the palms planted over the next couple of weeks.

The Curator stated yesterday that the gardens are keen to increase their palm collection and look forward to hearing from me regarding future donations. She also gave me the green light to dust their Cyrtostachys loriae with Cyrtostachys renda pollen when it matures, which I'm really excited about!!!

I have approached Ipswich Council about the Kholo BG not far from my house but they are being arseholes as usual.   Haven't seen Grant in ages, I've known him for about 25 years now.

Tim, glad you have had good communication with the powers that be. More cool climate climate palms on display show people that their choices are not as limited as they thought.

Peachy

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I came. I saw. I purchased

 

 

27.35 south.

Warm subtropical, with occasional frosts.

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