The pictures they dont let you see

[happypalms]

When you have a nursery the size of what I have, and as many plants that I have in containers. There’s always behind the scenes stuff that they don’t let you see, it goes with any industry the waste. Either unwanted plants, dead plants or just complete failures due to no fault of the grower. Some is grower fault through learning about new varieties or plants that just won’t grow in your climate. Well iam no different than any other grower. Every now and then you have to go through the nursery and clean the dead or dying stock. Especially after winter it has its toll on most growers. So the next time you see that instagram shot that’s absolutely perfect peek behind the scenes! 

[Hu Palmeras]

Richar, what a variety of palm trees they were?

[Hu Palmeras]

Richard, here in Chile, I'm closer to Antarctica. If I see the tropical palm trees dying, I'll have to grow other varieties.

[happypalms]

37 minutes ago, Hu Palmeras said:

Richar, what a variety of palm trees they were?

Brassiophoenix and some Arecas they don’t like winter that’s for sure time to throw them out. 

[Hu Palmeras]

Install a solar panel and battery system and heat your most sensitive palm trees.

[Hu Palmeras]

Bring the green ones inside your house and acclimatize them. Don't throw them away.

[Hu Palmeras]

My friend in Chile gave me five Archontophoenix cunninghamiana (Bangalow), and some of the leaves are turning brown. I had to water them more in winter and acclimatize them better. They're already recovering a bit from winter. I'm already sprouting more Bangalow and Alexandrae.

[happypalms]

1 hour ago, Hu Palmeras said:

My friend in Chile gave me five Archontophoenix cunninghamiana (Bangalow), and some of the leaves are turning brown. I had to water them more in winter and acclimatize them better. They're already recovering a bit from winter. I'm already sprouting more Bangalow and Alexandrae.

Yes there is a lot I can do about the situation, but at the end of the day they will get to big and have to face the elements. My way of thinking if it lives it lives and if it dies so be it. Time is wasted on stuff that won’t grow and money. 

[Hu Palmeras]

It's a matter of luck. I hope to germinate the other varieties. I'm getting a bunch of tropical palm seeds. I hope I'm lucky.

[happypalms]

5 minutes ago, Hu Palmeras said:

It's a matter of luck. I hope to germinate the other varieties. I'm getting a bunch of tropical palm seeds. I hope I'm lucky.

If you get as cold as you say it gets. I can save you a lot energy, time and money, there are a lot of palm varieties that won’t  grow no matter what you do. I know from my own experience with killing a lot of palm variety’s. I also have found great palm varieties that will live once thought of impossible to grow in a cool climate winter. 

[Hu Palmeras]

Richard, do you have a list of those who survived? Send it here.

[Hu Palmeras]

I hope I do well with the tropical plants. I have several palm trees that have already germinated.

[Darold Petty]

37 minutes ago, happypalms said:

Yes there is a lot I can do about the situation, but at the end of the day they will get to big and have to face the elements. My way of thinking if it lives it lives and if it dies so be it. Time is wasted on stuff that won’t grow and money. 

The older I get, the more ruthless I have become about discarding non-performing plants.     

[happypalms]

18 minutes ago, Hu Palmeras said:

I hope I do well with the tropical plants. I have several palm trees that have already germinated.

Nice one.

[Hu Palmeras]

If I germinated around 20 Pseudophoenix Sargenti var. Navassana, I'm facing the world of tropical palm trees.

[happypalms]

2 minutes ago, Darold Petty said:

The older I get, the more ruthless I have become about discarding non-performing plants.     

Iam even digging out ones in the ground that aren’t growing, not wasting my time on something that will always be struggling. Wasting valuable real estate that something else can grow in. 

[Hu Palmeras]

That's true, Richard. What you say is very interesting. These more tropical palm trees require more delicate care. Acclimatize them in a temperature-controlled chamber.

[gyuseppe]

4 hours ago, happypalms said:

When you have a nursery the size of what I have, and as many plants that I have in containers. There’s always behind the scenes stuff that they don’t let you see, it goes with any industry the waste. Either unwanted plants, dead plants or just complete failures due to no fault of the grower. Some is grower fault through learning about new varieties or plants that just won’t grow in your climate. Well iam no different than any other grower. Every now and then you have to go through the nursery and clean the dead or dying stock. Especially after winter it has its toll on most growers. So the next time you see that instagram shot that’s absolutely perfect peek behind the scenes! 

Richard, it's normal to throw something away. In my brothers' shops (butchers and supermarkets), every morning we check the goods we have, and there's always something we have to throw away. Food safety here is very serious.

[happypalms]

1 hour ago, Hu Palmeras said:

If I germinated around 20 Pseudophoenix Sargenti var. Navassana, I'm facing the world of tropical palm trees.

What you would be best of doing is concentrating on the known varieties of palms that are proven to survive in harsh climates sabals are good choice Livistona, trachycarpus, syagrus, cocothrinax. There are many to choose from and it’s just those varieties alone. Then theres Caryota species, all these varieties are obtainable, get these ones going in the botanical gardens you wish to be part of. Then along way you can collect the more exotic smaller varieties. Think big canopy first then the rest will follow. 

[gyuseppe]

2 hours ago, happypalms said:

Yes there is a lot I can do about the situation, but at the end of the day they will get to big and have to face the elements. My way of thinking if it lives it lives and if it dies so be it. Time is wasted on stuff that won’t grow and money. 

That's right Richard, I've never grown tropical plants, I've always tried to grow palm trees that would grow in my climate.

[happypalms]

4 hours ago, Hu Palmeras said:

That's true, Richard. What you say is very interesting. These more tropical palm trees require more delicate care. Acclimatize them in a temperature-controlled chamber.

Choose carefully your seeds, I went into it wanting to try as many varieties as I could. Iam still learning and won’t stop learning. Other growers will tell you oh they won’t live Ive tried them and all died. But you still go ahead and try🤣 It’s fun trying and you just never know your luck. 

[happypalms]

3 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

That's right Richard, I've never grown tropical plants, I've always tried to grow palm trees that would grow in my climate.

Yes I have tried that technique of winter protection with certain varieties, yes they lived and you get confident and put them in the greenhouse and first winter they die. All that work goes down the drain. I have learnt enough over the years right from when I first put my garden in if it lived it lived so be it. 

[Hu Palmeras]

Yes, I hope things go very well with the seeds. I've already germinated several tropical ones. I hope they don't die.

[Hu Palmeras]

3 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

That's right Richard, I've never grown tropical plants, I've always tried to grow palm trees that would grow in my climate.

You should try Guissepe, tropical ones are entertaining.

[happypalms]

5 minutes ago, Hu Palmeras said:

Yes, I hope things go very well with the seeds. I've already germinated several tropical ones. I hope they don't die.

Keep on germinating them, if they come from the highlands, say in Papua New Guinea then you stand a chance. Try getting some Chuniophoenix nana seeds they should be cold tolerant for you. 

[Hu Palmeras]

Yes, I'm in the south of Chile, and Antarctica is farther down. Even so, these palm trees are alive, Richard. If I were going to Mars, I'd plant everything with lush palm trees. And I'd invite you, and my friends too. Starting with Mazat, Guiseppe, Konstantinos, Harry, Dave, and the great gentleman John and Sancho. And some others from PalmTalk who want to go. I think the director of PalmTalk would be afraid to go as a guest.

[happypalms]

6 minutes ago, Hu Palmeras said:

Yes, I'm in the south of Chile, and Antarctica is farther down. Even so, these palm trees are alive, Richard. If I were going to Mars, I'd plant everything with lush palm trees. And I'd invite you, and my friends too. Starting with Mazat, Guiseppe, Konstantinos, Harry, Dave, and the great gentleman John and Sancho. And some others from PalmTalk who want to go. I think the director of PalmTalk would be afraid to go as a guest.

Count me in of your going to mars. I got a few seeds I can bring along. Together we plant out mars. We will leave @JohnAndSancho to look after the palms once we germinate them, he’s got the grow lights so he will come in handy. 

[gyuseppe]

1 hour ago, happypalms said:

Yes I have tried that technique of winter protection with certain varieties, yes they lived and you get confident and put them in the greenhouse and first winter they die. All that work goes down the drain. I have learnt enough over the years right from when I first put my garden in if it lived it lived so be it. 

yes my friend

[gyuseppe]

1 hour ago, Hu Palmeras said:

You should try Guissepe, tropical ones are entertaining.

At the beginning, about 30 years ago, I tried many tropical species, but with the first cold weather they died, wasting time and money

GIUSEPPE

[Hu Palmeras]

We can populate the world with all kinds of palm trees wherever they take us. Be it a botanical garden at the poles, on Mars, or wherever. Any country would like to do something they'd never have imagined.

[JohnAndSancho]

4 hours ago, happypalms said:

Count me in of your going to mars. I got a few seeds I can bring along. Together we plant out mars. We will leave @JohnAndSancho to look after the palms once we germinate them, he’s got the grow lights so he will come in handy. 

Yeah, I'm not getting on one of Elon's rockets. Y'all just send everything to Mississippi - and send me money to pay the customs fees - and I'll take care of them. PayPal me extra to buy more grow lights and we're good lol. 

[Hu Palmeras]

2 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

Al principio, hace unos 30 años, probé muchas especies tropicales, pero con los primeros fríos murieron, perdiendo tiempo y dinero.

GIUSEPPE

Guiuseppe, what species of palm trees do you have now? Those that are more resistant to the cold?

[Harry’s Palms]

This is something we deal with , plants that don’t like our garden. I tend to let stuff over stay if there is a glimmer of hope. One of my success palms , also one that was a “ that won’t grow where you live “ palm is my Roystonia Oleracae . A very well known and respected palm seller reluctantly sold it to me . He wasn’t happy with my persistence but I brought it home . That was 25 years ago . It is a major show piece in front for me . I did not want the massive size of the Regia . The Venezuelan  variety is not quite as robust in size. 
There will be winners and losers in the garden , just how it grows ….or not! Harry

[Hu Palmeras]

That's right, Harry. I'll test which tropical palm species are more resistant. And I'll work with those varieties. To grow all the species, you have to work in a botanical garden with a dome. It's the only way to have the entire palm world.

[SeanK]

I don't suffer the pains that y'all deal with. All my potted palms germinated on their own. Trachycarpus fortunei and Sabal minor. Rhapidophyllum seems to germinate between the needles.

It's too cold here to invest in anything else.

[Hu Palmeras]

Yes, sometimes it's an exotic luxury to grow unique specimens. Those palm trees that no one has, only a few people. And they're only worthy of a collector's private collection. It's just a sample of the most exotic luxury.

[gyuseppe]

1 hour ago, Hu Palmeras said:

Guiuseppe, what species of palm trees do you have now? Those that are more resistant to the cold?

Those that resist -3 degrees Celsius

GIUSEPPE

[happypalms]

5 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

This is something we deal with , plants that don’t like our garden. I tend to let stuff over stay if there is a glimmer of hope. One of my success palms , also one that was a “ that won’t grow where you live “ palm is my Roystonia Oleracae . A very well known and respected palm seller reluctantly sold it to me . He wasn’t happy with my persistence but I brought it home . That was 25 years ago . It is a major show piece in front for me . I did not want the massive size of the Regia . The Venezuelan  variety is not quite as robust in size. 
There will be winners and losers in the garden , just how it grows ….or not! Harry

Yes very true I don’t see myself ripping out a tahina just because it’s not performing well, not that I have one. It’s in any industry even in a chocolate factory you would have seconds and rejects! Exactly that’s just how it grows or not.

[happypalms]

5 hours ago, SeanK said:

I don't suffer the pains that y'all deal with. All my potted palms germinated on their own. Trachycarpus fortunei and Sabal minor. Rhapidophyllum seems to germinate between the needles.

It's too cold here to invest in anything else.

A very wise man!

[Hu Palmeras]

Richard, do you know where to find Tahia Spectabilid seeds?