Sabal mauitiiformis

[96720]

Anybody growing this palm in hot dry areas?

[Silas_Sancona]

9 minutes ago, 96720 said:

Anybody growing this palm in hot dry areas?

Have a small one that has been locked in it's 3gal pot for years.. 

Grown under bright,  high canopy shade,  so i can't say how it would handle full exposure to our sun. 

Never noticed any issues ( ..other than needing to get into a bigger pot )  w/ ambient heat or the cool spells during the winter. 
 

[96720]

I am growing a small Sabal row per @PalmatierMeg put a bunch of seedlings in in the spring and all of them have done well to incredible except mauitiiformis it is pretty much toast I will replace it when things cool a bit!

[Tracy]

I don't think coastal Carlsbad about 3/4's mile from the Pacific will qualify, but i just took a photo of mine earlier today.  Great choice in species if you can get this Sabal to grow for you.

[Harry’s Palms]

I am 20 miles from the west coast in Southern California. I put one in the ground a while ago ( weeks) it is in sun on a south facing slope . It has opened a new green frond . I water it a couple times a week . Harry

It came in this terra coat pot that I broke open to plant the palm with minimal root disturbances.

that new spear has now opened and is dark green . I had to trim a couple of old fronds that burned. It is growing well now. Harry

[Husain]

I have Yapa in very hot (112 F) but humid area

 

[happypalms]

I got two in my garden both growing well, they have endured droughts and very high temperatures of 42 degrees hot dry winds that cook Joey palms like eggs in a frypan. Both in shade one is a lot smaller than the other one which is stretching petioles with huge leaves the size of a dinning table with a lazy Susan in the middle. Easy to grow but they do like water, if you can irrigatate it will take hot weather and grow well. 

[gyuseppe]

I once bought the seeds, and they sprouted, but when they were getting big, I realized they were sabal palmetto!

[Harry’s Palms]

4 hours ago, happypalms said:

I got two in my garden both growing well, they have endured droughts and very high temperatures of 42 degrees hot dry winds that cook Joey palms like eggs in a frypan. Both in shade one is a lot smaller than the other one which is stretching petioles with huge leaves the size of a dinning table with a lazy Susan in the middle. Easy to grow but they do like water, if you can irrigatate it will take hot weather and grow well. 

I went for the full sun option , even though they look so much better with shade . It went through our dry summer with ease ( and  regular watering ) . It seems like it has a bit of speed to its growth now that it is in the ground. It was in that pot long enough to crack it so it was probably held back or limited. @doomsdave has a beauty out front that is in a shady spot . The fronds are at least 6’ tall! We’ll see , in a few years , with mine . I was very fortunate to have the opportunity to acquire this palm. I bought it from a photo Dave sent me and , when I got down there to pick it up , it was double the size I thought it was . I felt ok putting it in the sun as I talked others in Southern California that had it in sun in the inland areas. They said the same thing “keep it watered”. Harry

[Hillizard]

My Sabal mauritiiformis is growing many miles inland from the Calif. coast, in an area that has very hot, dry summers. What seems to help it survive is the shade it enjoys during the sunniest part of the day.  It puts out usu. three leaves a year.  I took this picture yesterday. To its right is what I believe is a Ceiba acuminata (orig. from Yuccado).

[mnorell]

I've got a few here in the Palm Springs area...one larger one in the ground (out of a 5gal) for the past year or so and two 1gals still in their containers, in the shade mostly. The larger one is in a place that gets winter sun and summer canopy but received a decent amount of hot sun when it was in a container. It has never balked at sun on the hottest days of spring before the canopy thickens and fills in above it. I think this one is probably able to take full desert sun but it's not going to yield its best possible appearance there.

I'd suggest you test it through gradual acclimation (or temporary canopy/shading) if you intend to plant it in intense desert sun. But if existing leaves burn, don't just assume it can't take it...the palm probably needs to grow a new head of leaves and the newer lamina should thicken and harden themselves to compensate for ambient conditions. Mine at least has been fairly slow...so it might take a while to complete a full changeover. 

One of the well-known problems for this one in an open situation is the wind, which photos as well as anecdotes from other growers show can carve up the leaves and ruin the overall character of the crown once the plant is up in the air and exposed to it. Tracy's specimen seems to buck that a bit since his is impressive, but must receive regular buffeting from the nearby ocean...nevertheless, winds in the desert of course can be far more punishing if only on an intermittent basis. So keep your eye out for placement in the lee of trees or other barriers to the worst of the winds where you are. The largest and most spectacular specimens (and as others have shown above, and photos elsewhere can attest) are in the understorey, protected from wind and in dappled shade/partial sun only, and where their stretched-out, spidery look can achieve a level of perfection.

If you want to put the palm in full sun, I'd suggest you look at Sabal yapa, which has a similar appearance but in nature grows in hot, open savannas and is subjected to all sorts of harsh elements, so is apparently a significantly sturdier plant. It's also a little cold-hardier by most accounts.

[96720]

I have a Sabal row that contains etonia, maritima, mauritiiformis, Lisa, rosei,uresema, yaps!! Elsewhere in the jungle are bermudana and causturium!! If my mauritiiformis makes it it won’t be a beautiful one because it will have to put up with wind and sun!!

[Harry’s Palms]

@mnorell thank you for confirming what I had been told prior to planting “ Marty “ in the ground  . I am going down the hill to check on him today but from up on the deck he looks fine . I was really surprised how little burn was on the palm after the summer. It already had a darker color on the newest growth . I now have two Sabal , a Riverside ( I think ) and this one . The Riverside was put on the hill as a strap leaf seedling and grew to a beautiful palm over 28 years so I figured the Marty could do just fine down there after talking to others. Harry

[Harry’s Palms]

I went down and checked on my Sabal Mauritiformis and it seems that it is hardening off fine the new frond is darker green . I cleared the dirt around the base from being on a slope . I decided to leave the partially sun burnt fronds until it grows out a bit . Harry

Some partial burning from direct south facing , inland sun

New frond is encouraging. I think these can handle sun with adequate water. Harry

[96720]

@Harry’s Palms how do you water yours?

don

[Harry’s Palms]

Usually with a hose . I aim the stream just above and water goes into the flat circle and fills, leaches in . I go down every now and then and the soil always has moisture within an inch of the surface , right the way round the palm. Once a week with sprinklers in the summer . I have done this with all the sun lovers for 28 years and they seem to do ok . The Livistona and others are thriving down there . All planted as little ones. Harry

It’s quite the slope so palms must be hardy! The Chamerops on the right ( solitary form) was just a strap leaf when planted

These , at the bottom of the hill, get the most water. Livistona and Brahea . Out of shot is a huge Butia. 

[96720]

Thank you!! This part of my jungle is on drip I have blue on all the Sabals maybe I will increase that one to a red and then try to give it some supplemental water on occasion!!

[happypalms]

Here’s a couple of seedlings, they have to begin a seedlings to get to the big mothers you see in the picturess