A few chamaedorea metallicas

[happypalms]

Another one of my favourites in the chamaedorea collection! 

[Mazat]

2 hours ago, happypalms said:

Another one of my favourites in the chamaedorea collection! 

This chamaedorea rocks just as much as the band does, if not more, Richard 😁

[JohnAndSancho]

I will have one of these one day. 

 

"It will be mine. Oh yes, it will be mine." - Wayne Campbell, Wayne's World 

[happypalms]

57 minutes ago, Mazat said:

This chamaedorea rocks just as much as the band does, if not more, Richard 😁

Master of puppets oh great one who follows Metallica!

[happypalms]

12 minutes ago, JohnAndSancho said:

I will have one of these one day. 

 

"It will be mine. Oh yes, it will be mine." - Wayne Campbell, Wayne's World 

All mine precious! 

[JohnAndSancho]

7 minutes ago, happypalms said:

All mine precious! 

The last time I saw them for sale here, it was $63 for a 6" pot. Things are crowded right now, and I really want to invest in a Bokashi composting "soil factory" - and some more yard tools. And some lumber to build a compost bin. And I need to build.some grow light stands and buy some more lights. And I need to make friends with an arborist or get Santa Claus to rent me a wood chipper. And and and and and 

[gyuseppe]

4 hours ago, happypalms said:

Another one of my favourites in the chamaedorea collection! 

Richard, I had about 60 Chamaedorea metallica, I don't have even one left, please save some seeds for me, (no rush) very thanks

[happypalms]

31 minutes ago, JohnAndSancho said:

The last time I saw them for sale here, it was $63 for a 6" pot. Things are crowded right now, and I really want to invest in a Bokashi composting "soil factory" - and some more yard tools. And some lumber to build a compost bin. And I need to build.some grow light stands and buy some more lights. And I need to make friends with an arborist or get Santa Claus to rent me a wood chipper. And and and and and 

Weren’t you going to win lotto for us all! And and and……

[happypalms]

4 minutes ago, gyuseppe said:

Richard, I had about 60 Chamaedorea metallica, I don't have even one left, please save some seeds for me, (no rush) very thanks

60 that’s some good numbers to have, if you still had those plants you would be producing seeds for sure.

[Mazat]

36 minutes ago, happypalms said:

60 that’s some good numbers to have, if you still had those plants you would be producing seeds for sure.

A thought, an image, an idea, and soon the realization.
Let's get started.

[happypalms]

Just now, Mazat said:

A thought, an image, an idea, and soon the realization.
Let's get started.

It all begins with a seed! 

[Mazat]

9 minutes ago, happypalms said:

It all begins with a seed! 

yes, so true

[happypalms]

10 minutes ago, Mazat said:

yes, so true

From the ground up it all begins once you push that seed in! 

[Harry’s Palms]

The palm of darkness , no sun please! Actually mine take a bit of sun and no matter how I place the pot , the stem leans out from the porch to get a peak at the sun. Hardly ever see them for sale anymore . Even back in the nineties they were hard to find but there if you looked hard enough. It seems they have vanished from the nurseries along with most of the smaller nurseries I used to go to . I used to make the rounds looking for odd stuff , that’s when I ran into my metalica’s . They were at the back of the nursery , I think getting ready for transplant as they were about 3’ ( 1 meter ) tall in a small pot . Three plants to a pot . I bought all three pots . The woman who ran the nursery said they had some but not much interest so she gave me a deal to take all of them. I gave one pot away and still have the others. One of the pots sprouted a baby about 4-5 years ago . I guess that means I have both male and female. Occasionally I will get a couple of seeds but they don’t sprout in the garden like the other Chamaedorea . Harry

I have posted these before but here’s a rerun! The pot on the left has the volunteers. This was a while ago but they are still going strong . Gotta be over 35 years old!

 

…….nothing else matters…….

[JohnAndSancho]

4 hours ago, happypalms said:

Weren’t you going to win lotto for us all! And and and……

Tickets are $5 apiece now. And I am one of the unluckiest people on the planet. 

[aabell]

One of my favorites. I have 7 or 8 scraggly old ones and also a handful of second generation seedlings which just flowered this year for the first time. I usually get very sparse volunteer seeds but I read up on hand pollination and made more of an effort earlier this summer when I saw the inflorescences emerging. I didn't do anything fancy, just matched up the timing for when any male flowers seemed to be emitting pollen and picked them off, then lightly dusted them around any female flowers that looked potentially ready for pollination. The pollen is nearly invisible, but in the right light you can see it blowing when a male flower is shaken if it's ready. It seems like they are happily wind pollinated, no paintbrush or anything like that required. After doing this I've got a whole bunch of seed set and I'm excited to grow a lot more. In my past experience it's 4 years from this point to a blooming, trunking plant. 

[Jonathan Haycock]

Probably the least fussy palm I grow. Recently noticed one of mine is the split leaf form. All from the same personally collected seed batch, but from multiple parent palms in the same garden. Don’t recall any of them being split leaf though. 

[realarch]

7 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

The palm of darkness , no sun please! Actually mine take a bit of sun and no matter how I place the pot , the stem leans out from the porch to get a peak at the sun. Hardly ever see them for sale anymore . Even back in the nineties they were hard to find but there if you looked hard enough. It seems they have vanished from the nurseries along with most of the smaller nurseries I used to go to . I used to make the rounds looking for odd stuff , that’s when I ran into my metalica’s . They were at the back of the nursery , I think getting ready for transplant as they were about 3’ ( 1 meter ) tall in a small pot . Three plants to a pot . I bought all three pots . The woman who ran the nursery said they had some but not much interest so she gave me a deal to take all of them. I gave one pot away and still have the others. One of the pots sprouted a baby about 4-5 years ago . I guess that means I have both male and female. Occasionally I will get a couple of seeds but they don’t sprout in the garden like the other Chamaedorea . Harry

I have posted these before but here’s a rerun! The pot on the left has the volunteers. This was a while ago but they are still going strong . Gotta be over 35 years old!

 

…….nothing else matters…….

Wow! Amazing potted specimens. What a great look. Good job Harry.

Tim

[happypalms]

7 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

The palm of darkness , no sun please! Actually mine take a bit of sun and no matter how I place the pot , the stem leans out from the porch to get a peak at the sun. Hardly ever see them for sale anymore . Even back in the nineties they were hard to find but there if you looked hard enough. It seems they have vanished from the nurseries along with most of the smaller nurseries I used to go to . I used to make the rounds looking for odd stuff , that’s when I ran into my metalica’s . They were at the back of the nursery , I think getting ready for transplant as they were about 3’ ( 1 meter ) tall in a small pot . Three plants to a pot . I bought all three pots . The woman who ran the nursery said they had some but not much interest so she gave me a deal to take all of them. I gave one pot away and still have the others. One of the pots sprouted a baby about 4-5 years ago . I guess that means I have both male and female. Occasionally I will get a couple of seeds but they don’t sprout in the garden like the other Chamaedorea . Harry

I have posted these before but here’s a rerun! The pot on the left has the volunteers. This was a while ago but they are still going strong . Gotta be over 35 years old!

 

…….nothing else matters…….

Beautiful palm harry. I once purchased a thousand seeds and I got about a thousand to germinate. I wish I had a thousand seeds now of them. You don’t see them anymore in garden centres like you once did. The big chain  stores put the palm market into shambles only wanting the basic 5 palms to sell, rhapis, Bismarck, archontophoenix, Howea and golden cane such a shame. 
Richard 

[happypalms]

16 minutes ago, aabell said:

One of my favorites. I have 7 or 8 scraggly old ones and also a handful of second generation seedlings which just flowered this year for the first time. I usually get very sparse volunteer seeds but I read up on hand pollination and made more of an effort earlier this summer when I saw the inflorescences emerging. I didn't do anything fancy, just matched up the timing for when any male flowers seemed to be emitting pollen and picked them off, then lightly dusted them around any female flowers that looked potentially ready for pollination. The pollen is nearly invisible, but in the right light you can see it blowing when a male flower is shaken if it's ready. It seems like they are happily wind pollinated, no paintbrush or anything like that required. After doing this I've got a whole bunch of seed set and I'm excited to grow a lot more. In my past experience it's 4 years from this point to a blooming, trunking plant. 

Nice palm with a few good seeds, the male pollen is difficult to see and in small amounts. A group planting would be interesting to see how many seeds get produced. One question how long do they take to mature in your climate? 

[happypalms]

13 minutes ago, Jonathan Haycock said:

Probably the least fussy palm I grow. Recently noticed one of mine is the split leaf form. All from the same personally collected seed batch, but from multiple parent palms in the same garden. Don’t recall any of them being split leaf though. 

As you would be keeping an eye on that split leaf form for sure, it makes you wonder if an elegans jumped the fence to produce that split leaf, there is a split leaf form available. 

[Jonathan Haycock]

6 minutes ago, happypalms said:

As you would be keeping an eye on that split leaf form for sure, it makes you wonder if an elegans jumped the fence to produce that split leaf, there is a split leaf form available. 

Assuming the split leaf is just a mutation that sometimes occurs. As you say, they are known to the species. It doesn’t look like it’s hybridised, but I wouldn’t rule it out either.

[aabell]

11 minutes ago, happypalms said:

Nice palm with a few good seeds, the male pollen is difficult to see and in small amounts. A group planting would be interesting to see how many seeds get produced. One question how long do they take to mature in your climate? 

These three are from that handful of volunteer seeds I got four years ago. Seeds are slow to ripen and germinate, and then the seedlings had a lot of fungal issues, but once they get past the delicate early stages they pick up steam fast. Not bad considering it's barely over three years since they were germinated and they're now contributing with a few seeds of their own. 

 

[happypalms]

23 minutes ago, Jonathan Haycock said:

Assuming the split leaf is just a mutation that sometimes occurs. As you say, they are known to the species. It doesn’t look like it’s hybridised, but I wouldn’t rule it out either.

I would be leaning towards the natural split leaf form in a sport. After all where did the original split leaf form come from or is it just another form of metallica altogether, this is where flowers make it confusing with the exact same flowers but two different phenotype. 

[happypalms]

18 minutes ago, aabell said:

These three are from that handful of volunteer seeds I got four years ago. Seeds are slow to ripen and germinate, and then the seedlings had a lot of fungal issues, but once they get past the delicate early stages they pick up steam fast. Not bad considering it's barely over three years since they were germinated and they're now contributing with a few seeds of their own. 

 

Nice and green palms, healthy little ones. Would you say that the seeds take 12 months or longer to mature? 

[aabell]

12 minutes ago, happypalms said:

Nice and green palms, healthy little ones. Would you say that the seeds take 12 months or longer to mature? 

No, something like 9 months to mature and 6 months to germinate, from my memory.

[Harry’s Palms]

@realarch thank you , they really are pretty easy . I have a good friend that comes over now and then . He is a fellow collector with a beautiful garden . He could not believe the height of them , he said they are very old . I’ve had them at least 30 years , through two houses . Harry

[happypalms]

1 hour ago, aabell said:

No, something like 9 months to mature and 6 months to germinate, from my memory.

Thanks I will go with 12 in my climate, when I see them flowering again that’s a good indicator. 

[JohnAndSancho]

11 minutes ago, happypalms said:

Thanks I will go with 12 in my climate, when I see them flowering again that’s a good indicator. 

Just put the entire Master of Puppets album on repeat for them to speed the process up 

[NC_Palms]

One of my favorite chamaedorea species as well. A nursery nearby used to sell large ones  but missed my shot. Would love to grow one one day.

[peachy]

15 hours ago, Jonathan Haycock said:

Assuming the split leaf is just a mutation that sometimes occurs. As you say, they are known to the species. It doesn’t look like it’s hybridised, but I wouldn’t rule it out either.

Your daughter probably chewed it

 

[peachy]

My lovely tall ones that I had to leave behind 4 years ago when I moved house were originally purchased from a supermarket in 1976 when metallicas were fashionable and as easy to find as a fanbelt for a Commodore. (although I think Commodores were called Kingswoods back then)   Never in my wildest dreams (and they can be nearly feral) did I ever imagine they would become so rare as they now are.

Peachy

[happypalms]

7 hours ago, peachy said:

My lovely tall ones that I had to leave behind 4 years ago when I moved house were originally purchased from a supermarket in 1976 when metallicas were fashionable and as easy to find as a fanbelt for a Commodore. (although I think Commodores were called Kingswoods back then)   Never in my wildest dreams (and they can be nearly feral) did I ever imagine they would become so rare as they now are.

Peachy

That’s the one I even got on from Target years ago when they had a garden centre. I would have thought you would have been a Holden lady with the old HQ 186 motor, actually I change that to a Torana at the drive in picture theatre. But yes a common palm has become rare crazy palm world we live in.

Richard

[peachy]

5 hours ago, happypalms said:

That’s the one I even got on from Target years ago when they had a garden centre. I would have thought you would have been a Holden lady with the old HQ 186 motor, actually I change that to a Torana at the drive in picture theatre. But yes a common palm has become rare crazy palm world we live in.

Richard

I have never owned a Holden in my life Richard. First car was a Buick Riviera which I had for many years until I was talked into buying a Stingray Corvette which was nothing but trouble. When I moved to Queensland I had my Volvo wagon, which I wish I still had as it could carry so many plants.  Where I live now everyone either has Land Rovers, Land Cruisers or electric things of all varieties. These days I just have a little  Toyota Ractis which is currently for sale because I have dogs and cats in need of dental work.  I go nearly everywhere on my granny scooter and rarely use the car.  (and yes I have driven it home loaded high with palms and just enough space to peek through so I can see where I am going)

[happypalms]

9 hours ago, peachy said:

I have never owned a Holden in my life Richard. First car was a Buick Riviera which I had for many years until I was talked into buying a Stingray Corvette which was nothing but trouble. When I moved to Queensland I had my Volvo wagon, which I wish I still had as it could carry so many plants.  Where I live now everyone either has Land Rovers, Land Cruisers or electric things of all varieties. These days I just have a little  Toyota Ractis which is currently for sale because I have dogs and cats in need of dental work.  I go nearly everywhere on my granny scooter and rarely use the car.  (and yes I have driven it home loaded high with palms and just enough space to peek through so I can see where I am going)

Should have gotten a Ferrari! And the old Volvo safest car on the road! And peachys home palm delivery system is a winner, just pack the car up with palm! Last PACSOA I was going to leave the wife behind just so I could get more palms in the car, not a good idea I thought but hey why not!
Ricahrad