Chamaedorea Schippii seedlings

[happypalms]

Here’s two chamaedoreas I have never heard of before. Sent in the mail and arrived in great condition. Apparently they are rare. But they will treated no different than any other chamaedorea in the collection. They don’t look like much now apart from looking like a couple of palm seedlings, time will tell how special they are I guess. 

[gyuseppe]

Richard is very rare! I've never had one, God willing, when they produce seeds, think of me (very thanks)

[happypalms]

10 minutes ago, gyuseppe said:

Richard is very rare! I've never had one, God willing, when they produce seeds, think of me (very thanks)

Yes I purchased the only two in hope of male and female. Knowing our luck Colin will send us seeds next week 🤣

[gyuseppe]

53 minutes ago, happypalms said:

Yes I purchased the only two in hope of male and female. Knowing our luck Colin will send us seeds next week 🤣

Thanks Richard

[Harry’s Palms]

I just looked it up , this should be a nice , clumping palm in years to come. They get fairly tall. Harry

[Darold Petty]

I purchased four plants from Jungle Music,  the first and only time I have found this species offered in California.  I hope to live long enough for them to produce seeds !

[happypalms]

7 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

I just looked it up , this should be a nice , clumping palm in years to come. They get fairly tall. Harry

Don’t tell @peachy Harry she will be disappointed I have another clumping palm and a rare one at that! 

[happypalms]

2 hours ago, Darold Petty said:

I purchased four plants from Jungle Music,  the first and only time I have found this species offered in California.  I hope to live long enough for them to produce seeds !

Yes I had a quick google and seen that he had them on offer for the first time in many many years! Hopefully they are fast growing like most chamaedoreas, I purchased the only two available so not sure how Mother Nature will play this one out in the boy girl department you gotta try. And iam sure there is plenty of palms I will never see set seeds in my days left on the planet. 

[Jonathan Haycock]

You know something is rare when Kew has it as an accepted species, but there’s very little information about it online otherwise. 

[tim_brissy_13]

Nice find Richard! I’ve been on the look out for this species (and basically all other Chams I don’t have) but they are very rare. There was initially some confusion between it and C gramilifolia but they are distinct (notably clumping vs solitary). There’s some brief info in here about C schippii but it’s a great article on other rare Chams too. 
 

https://palms.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/vol57n4p161-175.pdf

[Robbertico18]

Any idea as to cold hardiness ?

[happypalms]

3 hours ago, Jonathan Haycock said:

You know something is rare when Kew has it as an accepted species, but there’s very little information about it online otherwise. 

I didnt realise how rare, I just knew i didnt have any the collection, lucked up I guess. 

[happypalms]

3 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Nice find Richard! I’ve been on the look out for this species (and basically all other Chams I don’t have) but they are very rare. There was initially some confusion between it and C gramilifolia but they are distinct (notably clumping vs solitary). There’s some brief info in here about C schippii but it’s a great article on other rare Chams too. 
 

https://palms.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/vol57n4p161-175.pdf

I guess I will find out more about them as I grow them. But being a chamaedorea they grow do well in my garden, should be an easy one in the collection, thanks for the info tag. 

[Darold Petty]

With four plants my odds of a gendered pair are 87.5%, however, I am 74 years old !  

[happypalms]

2 hours ago, Robbertico18 said:

Any idea as to cold hardiness ?

I suppose just like the rest of the chamaedoreas taking low temps but not frost. 

[happypalms]

28 minutes ago, Darold Petty said:

With four plants my odds of a gendered pair are 87.5%, however, I am 74 years old !  

More chance of winning lotto then🤣 iam still a VB pup 56 years young.

[peachy]

7 hours ago, Darold Petty said:

I purchased four plants from Jungle Music,  the first and only time I have found this species offered in California.  I hope to live long enough for them to produce seeds !

You won't. Better to send me money now so I can plant some in my D.P. Memorial Garden.

Peachy

[peachy]

4 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Nice find Richard! I’ve been on the look out for this species (and basically all other Chams I don’t have) but they are very rare. There was initially some confusion between it and C gramilifolia but they are distinct (notably clumping vs solitary). There’s some brief info in here about C schippii but it’s a great article on other rare Chams too. 
 

https://palms.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/vol57n4p161-175.pdf

I had a gramilifolia but it started to send up a second trunk so I gave it away. Maybe I had a rare one and didn't know it.

Peachy

[peachy]

5 hours ago, happypalms said:

Don’t tell @peachy Harry she will be disappointed I have another clumping palm and a rare one at that! 

I will have to come for a visit and bring 10 of the pups with me. That'll slow down your clumping fetish.

[tim_brissy_13]

24 minutes ago, peachy said:

I had a gramilifolia but it started to send up a second trunk so I gave it away. Maybe I had a rare one and didn't know it.

Peachy

There’s a good chance it was C schippii I’d say based on the history. Whoever you gave it away to is very lucky!

[Harry’s Palms]

Oh no , @happypalms, I think peachy knows! Can’t have no stinking clumper! Harry

[happypalms]

1 hour ago, Harry’s Palms said:

Oh no , @happypalms, I think peachy knows! Can’t have no stinking clumper! Harry

Yes @peachy is onto us to overtake the world with clumping palms I won’t tell her if you don’t. It can hour secret, actually weren’t you and peachy coming around to raid the greenhouse, I will label all the clumping palms as single stem palms and the good singles as clumping that way she will get all happpalms clumping variety’s that’s a good plan but like I said don’t tell her.🤣

Richard 

[Harry’s Palms]

The secret underground palm squad is making plans so being prepared would be prudent. Harry🙄

[happypalms]

1 hour ago, peachy said:

I had a gramilifolia but it started to send up a second trunk so I gave it away. Maybe I had a rare one and didn't know it.

Peachy

Such a shame that you gave it away, that’s palm growing, what’s popular today is not tomorrow. But I do know you dislike clumping palms so you had a good reason to give it away. 

[happypalms]

2 hours ago, peachy said:

I will have to come for a visit and bring 10 of the pups with me. That'll slow down your clumping fetish.

It’s a deal and bring your collection of clumping palms so they can go into happypalms garden a retirement village for palm growers, where you get given a hose and a chair and can water all day long watching the (clumping palms) palms grow all day.

Richard 

[happypalms]

21 minutes ago, Harry’s Palms said:

The secret underground palm squad is making plans so being prepared would be prudent. Harry🙄

Damm I had a good plan, oh well looks like plan B shall be used instead!

Richard 

[peachy]

7 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

There’s a good chance it was C schippii I’d say based on the history. Whoever you gave it away to is very lucky!

 She thinks palms are pretty and likes unusual ones but not really a collector.  I thought it was just a dud. Next time I am over there I will have a look for it. If it is still there, it will come free with a Pekingese purchase. There's 14 of them here at the moment. (only 5 are mine)

Peachy from the Pekingese Pagoda

[peachy]

5 hours ago, happypalms said:

It’s a deal and bring your collection of clumping palms so they can go into happypalms garden a retirement village for palm growers, where you get given a hose and a chair and can water all day long watching the (clumping palms) palms grow all day.

Richard 

I would be thrown out after a week !! Could you imagine a bunch of geriatrics putting up with cats, parrots and dogs by the cart load.

Peachy

[peachy]

6 hours ago, happypalms said:

Yes @peachy is onto us to overtake the world with clumping palms I won’t tell her if you don’t. It can hour secret, actually weren’t you and peachy coming around to raid the greenhouse, I will label all the clumping palms as single stem palms and the good singles as clumping that way she will get all happpalms clumping variety’s that’s a good plan but like I said don’t tell her.🤣

Richard 

Clumping palms don't bother me at all, (as long as I have a large bottle of Roundup)

[happypalms]

26 minutes ago, peachy said:

Clumping palms don't bother me at all, (as long as I have a large bottle of Roundup)

I shall be stuck with a vision of you spraying away every time I look at a clumping palm now forever and and day.

Richard 

[happypalms]

29 minutes ago, peachy said:

I would be thrown out after a week !! Could you imagine a bunch of geriatrics putting up with cats, parrots and dogs by the cart load.

Peachy

Oh I forgot to mention it’s a retirement home for crazy cat ladies with dogs and parrots! 
Ricgard 

[peachy]

1 hour ago, happypalms said:

I shall be stuck with a vision of you spraying away every time I look at a clumping palm now forever and and day.

Richard 

and I use my big power sprayer too 😈

[Harry’s Palms]

In defense of clumping Chamaedorea . Harry

The canes of my clumping Tepejelote with a clump of Microspadix in the shadow 

[Darold Petty]

Here are images of my fourth plant of C. schippii, it will be ground planted tomorrow,   29.08.25. 

Note the strong clumping and adventitious roots.   

@peachy  Avert your eyes !!!!   

 

[happypalms]

14 hours ago, peachy said:

and I use my big power sprayer too 😈

You devil you! 

[happypalms]

12 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

In defense of clumping Chamaedorea . Harry

The canes of my clumping Tepejelote with a clump of Microspadix in the shadow 

That looks like bamboo that clump. 
Richard 

[happypalms]

54 minutes ago, Darold Petty said:

Here are images of my fourth plant of C. schippii, it will be ground planted tomorrow,   29.08.25. 

Note the strong clumping and adventitious roots.   

@peachy  Avert your eyes !!!!   

 

Beautiful I love the colour of the stem. And the old saying Darold @peachy they only look once! 

[happypalms]

22 hours ago, peachy said:

and I use my big power sprayer too 😈

That’s what iam worried about the big sprayer!

[peachy]

11 hours ago, Darold Petty said:

Here are images of my fourth plant of C. schippii, it will be ground planted tomorrow,   29.08.25. 

Note the strong clumping and adventitious roots.   

@peachy  Avert your eyes !!!!   

 

🤮

[palmtreesforpleasure]

Chamaedorea schippi and Chamaedorea graminifolia are different species.

In Don Hodels book on Chamaedorea say they are one and the same, however in a later paper he published he separated the species, stating C.  graminifolia is a single trunk species.

This has shown not to be quite correct.

They can be both.

Single and clustering forms both grow in Sydney botanic gardens.

Mine have both forms, however many did not show the clustering form until after seeding.

Some people unknowingly sold C graminifolia as Schippi before they became 2 species

Hope that helps.

 

Regards

Colin