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Dypsis mystery

elHoagie

By elHoagie
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elHoagie

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Here's the second palm.  I can't remember when/where I purchased it, and there's no tag.  It's also growing in a 5 gallon container.

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Jack Sayers

East Los Angeles

growing cold tolerant palms halfway between the equator and the arctic circle...

elHoagie Mentor

elHoagie

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The base

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Jack Sayers

East Los Angeles

growing cold tolerant palms halfway between the equator and the arctic circle...

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The emerging spear

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Jack Sayers

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The leaflets.  I should mention that this palm has also been a pretty fast and strong grower

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Jack Sayers

East Los Angeles

growing cold tolerant palms halfway between the equator and the arctic circle...

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BS Man about Palms

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I vote clumping Pembana also.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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D. pembana.  First one I've seen clump (here in CA)

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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redant

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I agree with the others. Mine is very clumpy, and new clumps emerging.

I have a D. cabadae that's now about 7ft + with no sighns of clumping.  ???

Jupiter FL

in the Zone formally known as 10A

osideterry Grand Master

osideterry

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Looks just like Pembana, but it also looks a lot like a "mayotte". It looks ready to plant if you ask me.

Zone 9b/10a, Sunset Zone 22

7 miles inland. Elevation 120ft (37m)

Average annual low temp: 30F (-1C)

Average annual rainfall: 8" (20cm)

LJG Grand Master

LJG

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Let me be the first to say it. It is D. pembana.

PS - Matt, you don't get  out much. Not seeing any clumping Pembanas and all.......

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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Len, the only pembanas I've seen are multiplanted, not actually clumping.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

LJG Grand Master

LJG

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(MattyB @ Dec. 20 2007,12:39)

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Len, the only pembanas I've seen are multiplanted, not actually clumping.

I have one that is. If it makes it through the winter you can come and see it.  You just can't bring Paul. I do not want him knowing where I live. :P

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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:laugh:  :laugh:  :(

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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(LJG @ Dec. 20 2007,14:14)

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Let me be the first to say it. It is D. pembana.

PS - Matt, you don't get  out much. Not seeing any clumping Pembanas and all.......

:) Same answer for sure, Another pic, coming soon.

My one started to clump about 2 mths ago.

Nice health plant Jack, thx for sharing.

Cheers Mikey.

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M.H.Edwards

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paulgila Grand Master

paulgila

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len i already told you those other palms that disappeared from yer yard just climbed into my van.i couldn't stop them!

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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calyptrocalyx&licuala freck

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(pohonkelapa @ Dec. 20 2007,18:12)

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len i already told you those other palms that disappeared from yer yard just climbed into my van.i couldn't stop them!

:laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh: , Did it take long

Paul.

Cheers love ya sense of humour

Best wishes Mikey. :)

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M.H.Edwards

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Jeff Searle

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(elHoagie @ Dec. 20 2007,11:22)

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Here's the second palm.  I can't remember when/where I purchased it, and there's no tag.  It's also growing in a 5 gallon container.

Jack,

    The next question is when are going give it a good home? :D

Jeff    

See ya in CR!!

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

LJG Grand Master

LJG

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(pohonkelapa @ Dec. 20 2007,15:12)

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len i already told you those other palms that disappeared from yer yard just climbed into my van.i couldn't stop them!

Thats more hurtful then funny

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

paulgila Grand Master

paulgila

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len yer SO sensitive :P

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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Gileno Machado

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Nice palm Jack...but it doesn't really look like the pembana I (used to think) I have here...Got to show you a picture later...

Merry Xmas, to you and LaHoagie...and keep growing up in 2008 !!! (you and the palms !!)  :D

Do we meet again in San Jose in May?

Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

elHoagie Mentor

elHoagie

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Thanks for all the comments everyone.  This palm is similar, but not the same, as the pair of palms I purchased a while ago as one-leaf seedlings labeled D. pembana.  When I was talking with Matt in SD a few months ago at the Quail Garden sail, he seemed to think the pair of palms I purchased as D. pembana were actually D. sp. mayotte.  So, it wouldn't surprise me if this palm is the true D. pembana....

He'll be going in the ground in April, once the weather warms up, along with quite a few other palms.

Merry Christmas Gileno, both laHoagie and I will see you in San Jose :) .

Jack Sayers

East Los Angeles

growing cold tolerant palms halfway between the equator and the arctic circle...

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DoomsDave

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Jack, that's a pembana, got me a big one at my joint in the OC.

Post a pic when I get bakc . . . .

dave

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Jack,

Your palms is the same as my Dypsis pembana no question about it, these originated from Floribunda I'm pretty sure.  

I spoke with Kevin for a while about the palms he and some others are selling as pembana that are darker than the one your photo and have slightly different leaflets (but are clearly a closely related Dypsis at least).  He was very certain that his were D pembana as the seed was collected off a mature tree in Hawaii.  I've grown both of these palms from the same size and they are at the very least distinct varieties (maybe I'll start a post with photos of both).  I still think that the darker one that is going around now looks like the palms that was being sold as Dypsis 'mayotte' but who knows.  And they clearly could just be variation within the species.  I like them both and they're both great growers so you can't go wrong either way.

Matt

San Diego

0.6 Acres of a south facing, gently sloped dirt pile, soon to be impenetrable jungle

East of Mount Soledad, in the biggest cold sink in San Diego County.

Zone 10a (I hope), Sunset 24

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