Hedyscepe Canterburyana growing well in winter

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A couple of Hedyscepe liking the cool conditions. Tricky as seedlings I lost two as seedlings. But that could have been anything that caused that. There alive and that’s all that matters. I will definitely be planting them in cool shaded place in the garden. 

[JohnAndSancho]

@Darold Petty sent me one a while ago and it was happy in a cut off soda bottle and doing good and as soon as it pushed out it's 3rd frond it just died almost overnight. Roots looked fine, soil wasn't soggy, I honestly don't know what happened.

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9 minutes ago, JohnAndSancho said:

@Darold Petty sent me one a while ago and it was happy in a cut off soda bottle and doing good and as soon as it pushed out it's 3rd frond it just died almost overnight. Roots looked fine, soil wasn't soggy, I honestly don't know what happened.

Lack of humidity perhaps, or actually underwatering. Sometimes you just don’t know, a bit like life’s little mysteries you just don’t know!

[JohnAndSancho]

Just now, happypalms said:

Lack of humidity perhaps, or actually underwatering. Sometimes you just don’t know, a bit like life’s little mysteries you just don’t know!

Yeah. I dunno though, lots of stuff died off around the same time. And I bought a Livistona rotifunda and it looked like crap and died shortly after it got here. Then my beautiful Chamaedorea Plumosas died off one by one, the tallest fronds started drooping and the trunks just looked like something had sucked them dry. I dunno. Pests? Disease? Who knows. 

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6 hours ago, JohnAndSancho said:

Yeah. I dunno though, lots of stuff died off around the same time. And I bought a Livistona rotifunda and it looked like crap and died shortly after it got here. Then my beautiful Chamaedorea Plumosas died off one by one, the tallest fronds started drooping and the trunks just looked like something had sucked them dry. I dunno. Pests? Disease? Who knows. 

Most likely underwater if you got the dried up leaf look. Over fertilised perhaps but you know what you put on them dad you say who knows, if the plant could talk then you would know for sure! 

[Tyrone]

13 hours ago, happypalms said:

A couple of Hedyscepe liking the cool conditions. Tricky as seedlings I lost two as seedlings. But that could have been anything that caused that. There alive and that’s all that matters. I will definitely be planting them in cool shaded place in the garden. 

They love the cool moist to full on drenched winters we get here. Even here summer heat is their enemy. I lost quite a few in moist shade in my Perth garden. Down here in the cooler summers they do well but only in shade. Too much sun on a 42C day under canopy where a hole in the canopy beams through at the wrong time and they burn for me. Treat them like a Kentia that needs extra summer sun protection and they should do well. 

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1 minute ago, Tyrone said:

They love the cool moist to full on drenched winters we get here. Even here summer heat is their enemy. I lost quite a few in moist shade in my Perth garden. Down here in the cooler summers they do well but only in shade. Too much sun on a 42C day under canopy where a hole in the canopy beams through at the wrong time and they burn for me. Treat them like a Kentia that needs extra summer sun protection and they should do well. 

Thanks for the tip, iam thinking at the bottom of my property no frost there under a deep shade wet place if possible in my hot 42 degree weather summer. Or it’s a container life for them in my greenhouse. 

[Tyrone]

I’d go for the wet gully. As long as it’s free draining. They won’t grow in pure muck (like Ravenea rivularis will). Also mild frost (down to minus 2C) won’t bother them. 

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45 minutes ago, Tyrone said:

I’d go for the wet gully. As long as it’s free draining. They won’t grow in pure muck (like Ravenea rivularis will). Also mild frost (down to minus 2C) won’t bother them. 

Good stuff I got a wet gully, I didn’t think cold cool would be a problem conditions would be a problem. Free draining not a worry in my black sandy soil, the only problem is it’s to free draining and that creates moisture situation in drought conditions, irrigation will be the order of the day I think! 

[Tyrone]

3 hours ago, happypalms said:

Good stuff I got a wet gully, I didn’t think cold cool would be a problem conditions would be a problem. Free draining not a worry in my black sandy soil, the only problem is it’s to free draining and that creates moisture situation in drought conditions, irrigation will be the order of the day I think! 

That sounds perfect. I’ve got to improve my drainage here but yours sounds spot on. 

[JohnAndSancho]

I know I said this in another thread, but trying to balance everything indoors is... Unless you're just growing cat palms and spindles, it isn't easy. And unfortunately I want to grow stuff that has 0% survival chance outside because it looks cool. I'm trying to shade sun sensitive stuff underneath a Monstera and I'm using old refrigerator shelves to push sun loving stuff closer to the lights, and this one wants to be misted daily and this one will shrivel if you mist it, and this one wants to be in standing water and it's too hot for this one and too cold for that one. I can forget to water this one for 2 months and it's fine but if I'm a day late on this one it dies. 

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58 minutes ago, Tyrone said:

That sounds perfect. I’ve got to improve my drainage here but yours sounds spot on. 

Oh it drains freely alright to freely!

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39 minutes ago, JohnAndSancho said:

I know I said this in another thread, but trying to balance everything indoors is... Unless you're just growing cat palms and spindles, it isn't easy. And unfortunately I want to grow stuff that has 0% survival chance outside because it looks cool. I'm trying to shade sun sensitive stuff underneath a Monstera and I'm using old refrigerator shelves to push sun loving stuff closer to the lights, and this one wants to be misted daily and this one will shrivel if you mist it, and this one wants to be in standing water and it's too hot for this one and too cold for that one. I can forget to water this one for 2 months and it's fine but if I'm a day late on this one it dies. 

Argh to have the perfect humidity controlled grow room. Try a wall paper steamer in a grow tent my wife uses one for a steam room to sweat it out, it’s like Borneo in there! 

[PalmCode]

A couple of mine are opening up new fronds now. They seem to grow well in winter and look nice this time of year here. Still years away from trunking though.

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36 minutes ago, PalmCode said:

A couple of mine are opening up new fronds now. They seem to grow well in winter and look nice this time of year here. Still years away from trunking though.

Now that’s a couple of nice palms, and a couple of years or more in growing them to absolute perfection, beautiful and stunning! 

[Tyrone]

5 hours ago, PalmCode said:

A couple of mine are opening up new fronds now. They seem to grow well in winter and look nice this time of year here. Still years away from trunking though.

I love that droopy leaved one you’ve got. It almost looks like a droopy leaf Dypsis onilahensis. 

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31 minutes ago, Tyrone said:

I love that droopy leaved one you’ve got. It almost looks like a droopy leaf Dypsis onilahensis. 

Its absolutely beautiful palm I thought as well.

[PalmCode]

10 hours ago, Tyrone said:

I love that droopy leaved one you’ve got. It almost looks like a droopy leaf Dypsis onilahensis. 

Yea you're right, after looking at a few pictures of D onilahensis it is very similar looking. 

That droopy hedy wasn't like that when I purchased it. Just started growing that way.

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2 hours ago, PalmCode said:

Yea you're right, after looking at a few pictures of D onilahensis it is very similar looking. 

That droopy hedy wasn't like that when I purchased it. Just started growing that way.

It’s almost a punk look bellmoreana only in the form of a Hedyscepe!

[Jim in Los Altos]

This one got planted in this mostly shaded spot as a tiny seedling. It puts out new fronds year round but at a slightly slower pace in the summer. It’s going to have to deal with more sun when it reaches roof level. 
 

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1 hour ago, Jim in Los Altos said:

This one got planted in this mostly shaded spot as a tiny seedling. It puts out new fronds year round but at a slightly slower pace in the summer. It’s going to have to deal with more sun when it reaches roof level. 
 

Beautiful palm, it’s surprising how rare these palms are in Australia. There around but nothing like there cousin the Howea. I guess more intrest was shown overseas in them than in Australia with growers being sidetracked by the Howea. And the collectors overseas were ahead of there time with this palm!