Some nice chamaedorea genoformis

[happypalms]

A few nice genoformis in the garden. All are 23 years old. They do produce seed but only if I hand pollinate them, which brings me to another question with a different answer as the male pollen was chamaedorea adscendens. And with a discussion about them with Colin Wilson it’s not meant to happen in that boy girl department. The last picture is the offspring from that so called arranged marriage. With some discussion with Mr Wilson it will be established that I shall keep a very close eye on this little palm in question. Time will tell what happens. One seed was ready to pick so it shall be sown and a close eye will be placed on tis one. 

[peachy]

If it is fertile the baby should be attractive. Nice single trunk !!

Peachy

[Harry’s Palms]

I hope the resulting plant will have the traits of the female Genoformis although the male pollinator plant would be nice too. The little one shown seems to have a broader leaf. So all your Chamaedorea Genoformis are female? Harry

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11 hours ago, peachy said:

If it is fertile the baby should be attractive. Nice single trunk !!

Peachy

The best bit will be it doesn’t sucker! Enter the peachy sales pitch! 
Richard 

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11 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

I hope the resulting plant will have the traits of the female Genoformis although the male pollinator plant would be nice too. The little one shown seems to have a broader leaf. So all your Chamaedorea Genoformis are female? Harry

According to the experts it is not possible to cross them. But Mother Nature when manipulated will do strange things, the crossing was done simply because I had the pollen of adscendens and the female flower next to the genoformis so i just went for it purely out something to do, not to play Mother Nature. Sort of a social experiment out of curiosity! 

[tim_brissy_13]

7 hours ago, happypalms said:

According to the experts it is not possible to cross them. But Mother Nature when manipulated will do strange things, the crossing was done simply because I had the pollen of adscendens and the female flower next to the genoformis so i just went for it purely out something to do, not to play Mother Nature. Sort of a social experiment out of curiosity! 

There’s a lot of evidence of Chamaedorea hybrids being possible outside their own sub genus. I’ve seen confirmed elegans x ernesti-augustii, radicalis x plumosa. Then there’s C ‘Irving Cantor’ which is C potchutlensis x graminifolia and C ‘Douglas Delight’ (C radicalis x oreophila). Weirdly enough from my own trials, 3 years of pollinating my female oblongata with woodsoniana pollen has yielded no success despite the two species being in the same sub genus. Then the first year I try with woodsoniana pollen on C costaricana I’ve yielded 4 good looking seeds and 3 have germinated. I bagged the inflo so no risk of contamination. My female C costaricana also appears to be open air pollinated by nearby C klotzschiana males on the other inflorescences with decent seed yield and germination. Overall I’d say there’s a lot of possibilities we’re not aware of with Chamaedorea. 
 

Just a note, on the whole I’m not the biggest fan of hybrids, but I’ve got individual specimens of quite a few Cham species in the garden so I have been experimenting a bit considering I can’t produce pure species of most being dioecious. The C costaricana x woodsoniana F1 in particular might turn out to look interesting. 

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Just now, tim_brissy_13 said:

There’s a lot of evidence of Chamaedorea hybrids being possible outside their own sub genus. I’ve seen confirmed elegans x ernesti-augustii, radicalis x plumosa. Then there’s C ‘Irving Cantor’ which is C potchutlensis x graminifolia and C ‘Douglas Delight’ (C radicalis x oreophila). Weirdly enough from my own trials, 3 years of pollinating my female oblongata with woodsoniana pollen has yielded no success despite the two species being in the same sub genus. Then the first year I try with woodsoniana pollen on C costaricana I’ve yielded 4 good looking seeds and 3 have germinated. I bagged the inflo so no risk of contamination. My female C costaricana also appears to be open air pollinated by nearby C klotzschiana males on the other inflorescences with decent seed yield and germination. Overall I’d say there’s a lot of possibilities we’re not aware of with Chamaedorea. 
 

Just a note, on the whole I’m not the biggest fan of hybrids, but I’ve got individual specimens of quite a few Cham species in the garden so I have been experimenting a bit considering I can’t produce pure species of most being dioecious. The C costaricana x woodsoniana F1 in particular might turn out to look interesting. 

You know my views on hybrids as well not particularly a big fan off them. The only other hybrid I do have is the hypohorbe bottle x indica. I guess the real trouble begins when start crossing f1 to f3 with others variables that are already hybrids. Mother Nature does create hybridisation but only in certain particular areas with other genus of palms in there natural environment, not two species introduced in a garden out of habitat. A big debate about that could be discussed. Iam not a scientist just a naturalist! 

[palmnut-fry]

That is such a small thing after so long. The fruiting structure looks almost identical to metallica ones i used to hand pollinate but my seeds did not sprout. But i luv the blue leaves with the fishtail aspect of this species! Good job there!

[gyuseppe]

On 7/5/2025 at 8:46 AM, tim_brissy_13 said:

There’s a lot of evidence of Chamaedorea hybrids being possible outside their own sub genus. I’ve seen confirmed elegans x ernesti-augustii, radicalis x plumosa. Then there’s C ‘Irving Cantor’ which is C potchutlensis x graminifolia and C ‘Douglas Delight’ (C radicalis x oreophila). Weirdly enough from my own trials, 3 years of pollinating my female oblongata with woodsoniana pollen has yielded no success despite the two species being in the same sub genus. Then the first year I try with woodsoniana pollen on C costaricana I’ve yielded 4 good looking seeds and 3 have germinated. I bagged the inflo so no risk of contamination. My female C costaricana also appears to be open air pollinated by nearby C klotzschiana males on the other inflorescences with decent seed yield and germination. Overall I’d say there’s a lot of possibilities we’re not aware of with Chamaedorea. 
 

Just a note, on the whole I’m not the biggest fan of hybrids, but I’ve got individual specimens of quite a few Cham species in the garden so I have been experimenting a bit considering I can’t produce pure species of most being dioecious. The C costaricana x woodsoniana F1 in particular might turn out to look interesting. 

Hello Tim

i love hybrid!
I made some hybrids, even if they produced few seeds
I made chamaedorea radicalis x microspadix the reverse hybrid microspadix x radicalis
phoenix roebelenii x reclinata, phoenix roebelenii x dactylifera
cycas revoluta x panzhihuaensis

so when you have seed of some hybrid,please remember me,thanks!

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5 hours ago, palmnut-fry said:

That is such a small thing after so long. The fruiting structure looks almost identical to metallica ones i used to hand pollinate but my seeds did not sprout. But i luv the blue leaves with the fishtail aspect of this species! Good job there!

Hopefully it is genoformis, but if I create a hybrid it is what it is. Iam pretty confident if it is a hybrid it will stay in my garden, iam not really wanting it to escape into main stream palm collections. 

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3 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

Hello Tim

i love hybrid!
I made some hybrids, even if they produced few seeds
I made chamaedorea radicalis x microspadix the reverse hybrid microspadix x radicalis
phoenix roebelenii x reclinata, phoenix roebelenii x dactylifera
cycas revoluta x panzhihuaensis

so when you have seed of some hybrid,please remember me,thanks!

That’s a few gyuseppe, busy time keeping records and working out who’s who!