id is chamaedorea radicalis?

[gyuseppe]

photos n.1 and 2 are  chamaedorea radicalis arborescent form, photos 3-4-5 are chamaedorea radicalis low form and photo n. 6 - is radicalis? or another species?

[happypalms]

It does look a little different. Do you have a picture of the complete palm and stem?

[gyuseppe]

no Richard I don't have any other photos, but the leaves are very different

[happypalms]

6 minutes ago, gyuseppe said:

no Richard I don't have any other photos, but the leaves are very different

Is it possible it’s a hybrid? 

[gyuseppe]

I remember that many years ago a nice old man from New Zealand told me that he had only 1 female chamaedorea radicalis and it had produced seeds, he said that nearby there was a male chamaedorea sartori, I was very skeptical I didn't believe it, but he insisted and sent me the seeds, maybe this chamaedorea comes from his seeds?

[happypalms]

9 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

I remember that many years ago a nice old man from New Zealand told me that he had only 1 female chamaedorea radicalis and it had produced seeds, he said that nearby there was a male chamaedorea sartori, I was very skeptical I didn't believe it, but he insisted and sent me the seeds, maybe this chamaedorea comes from his seeds?

That’s a possibility for sure. It does happen palms will naturally hybridise if planted in a garden with lots of other palms. Also chamaedoreas are know for hybrid varieties done by breeders. One species that is relatively easy to hybridise and pollinate. 

[tim_brissy_13]

To me it looks different. The petiole looks much thinner and more fragile than C radicalis and the point at which the leaflets join to the petiole seems more narrow too. 
 

Hybrids with radicalis have been documented. C radicalis x microspadix and vice versa are common and I believe C radicalis x plumosa is being grown (or the reverse hybrid) so hybrids outside the Moreniella sub genera are possible. 
 

 

[gyuseppe]

yes Tim very different leaves, and then the leaves are soft, unlike the radicals in which the leaves are hard