Just a couple of joeys fairing up well in the cold temperatures. With the winter temperatures getting down to 3 degrees Celsius the joeys are doing fine in it. Sometimes they overreact with palms in cold weather saying they won’t grow it’s too cold, there to beautiful they won’t take the cold. Well for such a tropical looking palm joeys take a fair beating in the fridge department that’s for sure. Just because there rare doesn’t mean they won’t take the cold, just treat them like any other palm and they grow fine. Mind you though there not rocket ships in the grow department I will say that! 

Excellent , no shortage there! Harry

1 minute ago, Harry’s Palms said:

Excellent , no shortage there! Harry

Not in the Joey department that’s for sure.

Richard 

On 6/18/2025 at 12:05 AM, happypalms said:

Just a couple of joeys fairing up well in the cold temperatures. With the winter temperatures getting down to 3 degrees Celsius the joeys are doing fine in it. Sometimes they overreact with palms in cold weather saying they won’t grow it’s too cold, there to beautiful they won’t take the cold. Well for such a tropical looking palm joeys take a fair beating in the fridge department that’s for sure. Just because there rare doesn’t mean they won’t take the cold, just treat them like any other palm and they grow fine. Mind you though there not rocket ships in the grow department I will say that! 

Your Joey palms look awesome!  Do you fertilize your Joey palms?  How many fronds a year?  Do you keep them super wet all year or just constantly moist?  Sorry for all the questions! 😎 I literally just received one from Floribunda palms yesterday.  I’ve been wanting to try to grow this palm for more than 35 years, but that many years ago it wasn’t available for sale or it would’ve been thousands of dollars.  

13 hours ago, Palms1984 said:

Your Joey palms look awesome!  Do you fertilize your Joey palms?  How many fronds a year?  Do you keep them super wet all year or just constantly moist?  Sorry for all the questions! 😎 I literally just received one from Floribunda palms yesterday.  I’ve been wanting to try to grow this palm for more than 35 years, but that many years ago it wasn’t available for sale or it would’ve been thousands of dollars.  

Joeys can tricky or can be very simple. Iam going with simple and easy. I have had them just up and die for no reason other then root fungus in containers. Iam backing of the water in containers now realising my mistake of overwatering them. So a little surface drying won’t hurt them. Drainage is the key to joeys. My ones in the ground can and will drink as much as I give them, I have black sandy soil so super good drainage, so much do it can be a problem in dry times. I have joeys sitting permanently in shallow trays of water and they love it. Tender roots yes so grow them on bench’s, I have successfully transplanted joeys from the ground. Two lived from four so doable but delicate. All in all dont fuss over them treat them like any other palm. The biggest mistake is fussing over them, they do like humidity. I fertilise my joeys with seasol liquid fertiliser, and use a soil fungicide called Agrifos but not continuously (phytotoxic). They detest drying out and dry low humidity. Last picture is one I just put in the ground without any irrigation or watering to see what would happen, well I know what happened in my climate! 

 

 

 

 

13 hours ago, Palms1984 said:

Your Joey palms look awesome!  Do you fertilize your Joey palms?  How many fronds a year?  Do you keep them super wet all year or just constantly moist?  Sorry for all the questions! 😎 I literally just received one from Floribunda palms yesterday.  I’ve been wanting to try to grow this palm for more than 35 years, but that many years ago it wasn’t available for sale or it would’ve been thousands of dollars.  

Joeys can tricky or can be very simple. Iam going with simple and easy. I have had them just up and die for no reason other then root fungus in containers. Iam backing of the water in containers now realising my mistake of overwatering them. So a little surface drying won’t hurt them. Drainage is the key to joeys. My ones in the ground can and will drink as much as I give them, I have black sandy soil so super good drainage, so much do it can be a problem in dry times. I have joeys sitting permanently in shallow trays of water and they love it. Tender roots yes so grow them on bench’s, I have successfully transplanted joeys from the ground. Two lived from four so doable but delicate. All in all dont fuss over them treat them like any other palm. The biggest mistake is fussing over them, they do like humidity. I fertilise my joeys with seasol liquid fertiliser, and use a soil fungicide called Agrifos but not continuously (phytotoxic). They detest drying out and dry low humidity. Last picture is one I just put in the ground without any irrigation or watering to see what would happen, well I know what happened in my climate! 

Thank you so much for all the detailed information! I really appreciate it. 😎

All your Joey palms look great! Of course, with the exception of the ones without water. You must receive a lot of humidity there, all year. Here in San Diego the humidity is relatively high for most of the year. However, in fall and winter we have the dreded hot, desiccating Santa Ana Winds! These winds can bring the humidity down into the single digits for several days, with temps from 90 to 110 degrees f ( 32 to 43 degrees c). Even very large trees can suffer from desiccation.

I’m guessing Joey palms are as hardy as Carpoxylon macrospermum? I have Carpoxylon growing outside and it looks flawless!

11 minutes ago, Palms1984 said:

Thank you so much for all the detailed information! I really appreciate it. 😎

All your Joey palms look great! Of course, with the exception of the ones without water. You must receive a lot of humidity there, all year. Here in San Diego the humidity is relatively high for most of the year. However, in fall and winter we have the dreded hot, desiccating Santa Ana Winds! These winds can bring the humidity down into the single digits for several days, with temps from 90 to 110 degrees f ( 32 to 43 degrees c). Even very large trees can suffer from desiccation.

I’m guessing Joey palms are as hardy as Carpoxylon macrospermum? I have Carpoxylon growing outside and it looks flawless!

One reason I know joeys is after having them for 30 years in my collection. They survived lots of adverse conditions and still stood strong in the collection. I say they are easy after having grown them by the thousands, you soon learn about them, by making mistakes with them. The humidity rarely drops below 65 percent, even at times having 98 percent humidity but without the tropical heat feeling like Singapore where joeys are planted as street trees!

Wow! That is many years of experience.

I have seen several pics of them growing in Singapore. They look excellent there! I have seen several in Hawaii (where I’m from originally) and they look terrific there, but are not very common, like in Malaysia where they are native.

I’ll post a pic of of my single-leaf Johannesteijsmannia altifrons soon, which I paid $15.00 at Floribund Nursery in Hawaii about two weeks ago. I hope it will not be dead by fall! 😂

32 minutes ago, happypalms said:

One reason I know joeys is after having them for 30 years in my collection. They survived lots of adverse conditions and still stood strong in the collection. I say they are easy after having grown them by the thousands, you soon learn about them, by making mistakes with them. The humidity rarely drops below 65 percent, even at times having 98 percent humidity but without the tropical heat feeling like Singapore where joeys are planted as street trees!

How long does it take to open a new frond, on average? I’m curious, because my little plant has a new frond emerging. How many fronds per year do you get, on average?

5 minutes ago, Palms1984 said:

How long does it take to open a new frond, on average? I’m curious, because my little plant has a new frond emerging. How many fronds per year do you get, on average?

Usually about 6 to 8 weeks, but the spear itself can take a couple of month to develop and usually about 3 leaves a year which is pretty good, but it’s agony to watch, you just want that huge mega Joey. It’s more about the leaves getting bigger every new leaf. So with a time frame like that with months in between each new leaf in a subtropical climate no wonder they are slow to grow!

3 minutes ago, happypalms said:

Usually about 6 to 8 weeks, but the spear itself can take a couple of month to develop and usually about 3 leaves a year which is pretty good, but it’s agony to watch, you just want that huge mega Joey. It’s more about the leaves getting bigger every new leaf. So with a time frame like that with months in between each new leaf in a subtropical climate no wonder they are slow to grow!

Still planting them though, safety in numbers plant enough of them and sooner or later I will have a good dozen of them growing!

19 hours ago, happypalms said:

Usually about 6 to 8 weeks, but the spear itself can take a couple of month to develop and usually about 3 leaves a year which is pretty good, but it’s agony to watch, you just want that huge mega Joey. It’s more about the leaves getting bigger every new leaf. So with a time frame like that with months in between each new leaf in a subtropical climate no wonder they are slow to grow!

Thank you for sharing your years of experience with me! I hope I can duplicate your good experience with my one plant here in San Diego.

Here’s a pic of my very small Joey palm.

3 minutes ago, happypalms said:

Usually about 6 to 8 weeks, but the spear itself can take a couple of month to develop and usually about 3 leaves a year which is pretty good, but it’s agony to watch, you just want that huge mega Joey. It’s more about the leaves getting bigger every new leaf. So with a time frame like that with months in between each new leaf in a subtropical climate no wonder they are slow to grow!

Still planting them though, safety in numbers plant enough of them and sooner or later I will have a good dozen of them growing!

3 hours ago, Palms1984 said:

Thank you for sharing your years of experience with me! I hope I can duplicate your good experience with my one plant here in San Diego.

Here’s a pic of my very small Joey palm.

That’s a beauty, nothing wrong with your green thumb. Remember don’t fuss over them!

1 hour ago, happypalms said:

Still planting them though, safety in numbers plant enough of them and sooner or later I will have a good dozen of them growing!

That’s a beauty, nothing wrong with your green thumb. Remember don’t fuss over them!

I will remember not to fuss over it. I will have to find a good protected spot for it, though.

Thanks again for all your knowledge and cultural experience information! 😎

14 minutes ago, Palms1984 said:

I will remember not to fuss over it. I will have to find a good protected spot for it, though.

Thanks again for all your knowledge and cultural experience information! 😎

Find that microclimate in the garden, shade and wet soil, but anywhere in the greenhouse will do!