Massive palm match

[Jerrrod]

Hi guys, I was just looking through some videos and was wondering what’s the most massive cold hardy palms. I’ll start off the match up between Canary Island date and Puerto Rican hat palm. Give me your thoughts and opinions plus feel free to throw any others in the mix.

[Fusca]

I'd go with Jubaea chilensis.  Sabal uresana is no slouch either.

[Jerrrod]

Thanks Fusca, I thought for sure we’d have more responses.

[Toddmin]

19 hours ago, Fusca said:

I'd go with Jubaea chilensis.  Sabal uresana is no slouch either.

I was going to say the same thing.

[Fusca]

18 minutes ago, Jerrrod said:

Thanks Fusca, I thought for sure we’d have more responses.

I think we covered all the bases if we include Washingtonia filifera.  I'd add Bismarckia nobilis although depends on your definition of cold hardy!

Jon

[ahosey01]

Jubaea there is no comparison.

[Xenon]

Do clustering palms count? Phoenix reclinata x canariensis can be massive ans is definitely a statement piece 

[Jerrrod]

Thanks guys but what lows are we talking about? They all count, even hybrids.

[Xenon]

Near San Diego...should be hardy to at least 20F

 

[ahosey01]

7 minutes ago, Xenon said:

Near San Diego...should be hardy to at least 20F

 

Root hardy to like 5F lol

[Jerrrod]

Great picture Xenon, but what is it? I know it’s a palm, just can’t tell what kind by looking at it. How’s this various dates vs sabals (trunking) vs butias vs washintonias vs whatever else?

[Xenon]

14 minutes ago, Jerrrod said:

Great picture Xenon, but what is it? I know it’s a palm, just can’t tell what kind by looking at it. How’s this various dates vs sabals (trunking) vs butias vs washintonias vs whatever else?

It's a hybrid date palm. Likely a hybrid of Senegal date palm (Phoenix reclinata) and Canary Island date palm (Phoenix canariensis) 

 

[Swolte]

Your best bet, in a zone 8a [with some effort and a lot of patience), is probably the Sabal Causiarum.

 

[Jerrrod]

I just asked my cousin who grew up here but has been in Dallas for a while says that it gets colder and hotter down there and that they have Canaries down there. I think we get slightly more rain though.

[Slifer00]

I've seen a lone Trachy that was at least 15 meters tall. I'd say the tallest cold hardy palm is the likes of the massive CIDPs they have in Los Angeles planted over 100 years ago

[Slifer00]

12 hours ago, Xenon said:

It's a hybrid date palm. Likely a hybrid of Senegal date palm (Phoenix reclinata) and Canary Island date palm (Phoenix canariensis) 

 

Might also be phoenix theophrasti, I saw another similar image like this where they did just fine clumped together.

[Las Palmas Norte]

13 hours ago, ahosey01 said:

Root hardy to like 5F lol

Behaving like a perennial regrowing from ground level ?  

 

[MarcusH]

On 6/10/2025 at 9:36 PM, Xenon said:

Near San Diego...should be hardy to at least 20F

 

What an impressive palm Jonathan but my thoughts are telling me "do not plant it in your yard ". I can't see the house lol. Amazing wow. 

[Atlanta Area Palm Guy]

On 6/9/2025 at 7:48 PM, Jerrrod said:

Hi guys, I was just looking through some videos and was wondering what’s the most massive cold hardy palms. I’ll start off the match up between Canary Island date and Puerto Rican hat palm. Give me your thoughts and opinions plus feel free to throw any others in the mix.

Canary Island date should be hardier in the drier climates.  Sabal Causiarum should be hardier in the wetter climates.  That's a general answer, but it's fitting.  

[TropicsEnjoyer]

On 6/13/2025 at 10:15 PM, MarcusH said:

What an impressive palm Jonathan but my thoughts are telling me "do not plant it in your yard ". I can't see the house lol. Amazing wow.

more fitting for my future castle 😂