A few different chamaedorea seedlings Cham deckeriana

[happypalms]

Hers a nice selection of some great grower varieties to have in the garden. Easy to grow and beautiful to look at. Just add shade and a little water, most chamaedoreas are cool tolerant. Fantastic palms for any shaded area or patio in a container. The last three pictures are the good old favourite Ernest augustii. 

[Harry’s Palms]

I too like this genus , as do most who have the shade to properly grow them . There are a few that can handle sun , but most just want water and a comfy spot in the shade . They will reward the garden with green and occasional fruit and a smattering of interesting leaf shapes. In my old greenhouse I had many varieties in pots , I lost about half of them . The Klotzchiana , Glaucifolia , potchutalensis only lived a few years because I didn’t have enough shade. Survivors , against all odds were Radicalis ( hardiest for me) TF, Seifritzi , Microspadix , Tepejelote, and Metallica. Now that I have a bit more shade I have introduced “ Ernie” . A happy lil palm that seems to be a bit of a show off on my porch . I think he’s trying to impress his heavy metal mate ( Metallica) “ Nothing Else Matters “! He keeps producing large bifid fronds ….”look what I can do”. The Seifritzi had to be tied up as it has a wandering nature , constantly clumping ( sorry @peachy) and getting big for its britches( stems) at about 10’ tall. The Tepejelote got huge and now pierced through into the morning sun , showing sun burn . Harry

Nice orange / red fruit of the Microspadix . This batch went to a patient PT friend.

Ernesti Augusti showing off . Since this photo , I have added more of this species and Ernie’s has gotten new fronds (2) .

Chamaedorea Metallica . I guess I have both sex’s as the pot on the left sprouted a baby a few years ago . To the left of that is the clumping Tepejelote.

Just to the left of the Plumeria is Mr. Seifritzi with a few new pups , towering up almost as tall as the C. Lutescens. (Golden canes , also with new pups). Also the trunk of a Tepejelote single (non clumping) on the right of the photo. These were all just a couple feet high when they came out of my old greenhouse. 
 Even on very warm days , I stroll through this pathway to the back , or view side of my house. It is cool and the fragrance of Plumeria permeates the way. Harry

[happypalms]

11 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

I too like this genus , as do most who have the shade to properly grow them . There are a few that can handle sun , but most just want water and a comfy spot in the shade . They will reward the garden with green and occasional fruit and a smattering of interesting leaf shapes. In my old greenhouse I had many varieties in pots , I lost about half of them . The Klotzchiana , Glaucifolia , potchutalensis only lived a few years because I didn’t have enough shade. Survivors , against all odds were Radicalis ( hardiest for me) TF, Seifritzi , Microspadix , Tepejelote, and Metallica. Now that I have a bit more shade I have introduced “ Ernie” . A happy lil palm that seems to be a bit of a show off on my porch . I think he’s trying to impress his heavy metal mate ( Metallica) “ Nothing Else Matters “! He keeps producing large bifid fronds ….”look what I can do”. The Seifritzi had to be tied up as it has a wandering nature , constantly clumping ( sorry @peachy) and getting big for its britches( stems) at about 10’ tall. The Tepejelote got huge and now pierced through into the morning sun , showing sun burn . Harry

Nice orange / red fruit of the Microspadix . This batch went to a patient PT friend.

Ernesti Augusti showing off . Since this photo , I have added more of this species and Ernie’s has gotten new fronds (2) .

Chamaedorea Metallica . I guess I have both sex’s as the pot on the left sprouted a baby a few years ago . To the left of that is the clumping Tepejelote.

Just to the left of the Plumeria is Mr. Seifritzi with a few new pups , towering up almost as tall as the C. Lutescens. (Golden canes , also with new pups). Also the trunk of a Tepejelote single (non clumping) on the right of the photo. These were all just a couple feet high when they came out of my old greenhouse. 
 Even on very warm days , I stroll through this pathway to the back , or view side of my house. It is cool and the fragrance of Plumeria permeates the way. Harry

You like your Ernie palms, there a fantastic little palm I remember when I got first Ernie’s I amazing at the fish tail shape of the leaf. Now all you need is Cham adscendens plants I might have to get into dooms Dave and see if he wants some seeds. Chamaedoreas are my favourites for such ease and good growers in my climate. And there are som many varieties for such a small palm. Slowly the more exotics like Calyptrocalyx, Geonoma and Calyptrogyne are pushing in on my grow brain but are a lot more tricky to grow and iam up against them with a cool climate. But Chams will always win hands down. 
Richard 

[peachy]

I love Chamies too. There's so many you buy small enough to carry home in your handbag and a year later they are scraping the roof gutters. My Ernie was only a little boy when I first got him 2 years ago but now he nearly reaches my shoulder.  I planted 2 plumosa 18 months ago, one in mainly shade and one in mainly sun. The shaded one is about a metre high now and the sunny boy has leaves just over 2 metres long, 80cm of trunk and a few aerial roots to boot, A woodsoniana planted 3 years ago in full sun barely grew for the first year then just a few new leaves a year. This year it took off, still only reaching 1.5 metres but very sturdy and lush. @Harry’s Palms your metallicas are the size  of my old one's that I originally bought in Melbourne in the 1980s.  I made the mistake of planting them out about 15 years ago, didn't want to part with them so tried to transplant them here and killed them.  I wish I had more space here to get other of the single trunk varieties of these tough little pretties.

Peachy

[tim_brissy_13]

Nice thread Richard. Some very cool ones in there like sartorii and deckeriana that I don’t have. Everyone always has room to fit in a few more Chamaedorea!

[happypalms]

6 hours ago, peachy said:

I love Chamies too. There's so many you buy small enough to carry home in your handbag and a year later they are scraping the roof gutters. My Ernie was only a little boy when I first got him 2 years ago but now he nearly reaches my shoulder.  I planted 2 plumosa 18 months ago, one in mainly shade and one in mainly sun. The shaded one is about a metre high now and the sunny boy has leaves just over 2 metres long, 80cm of trunk and a few aerial roots to boot, A woodsoniana planted 3 years ago in full sun barely grew for the first year then just a few new leaves a year. This year it took off, still only reaching 1.5 metres but very sturdy and lush. @Harry’s Palms your metallicas are the size  of my old one's that I originally bought in Melbourne in the 1980s.  I made the mistake of planting them out about 15 years ago, didn't want to part with them so tried to transplant them here and killed them.  I wish I had more space here to get other of the single trunk varieties of these tough little pretties.

Peachy

There so easy and so cool tolerant, they are such lovely palms. Perfect for containers on the patio, courtyard in containers, the greenhouse even indoors. When I tell non palm people about them I try to explain them, the. I say remember the little palm your grandmother had on her window sill in the kitchen and most immediately remember them, oh yeah I know the one! They make fantastic indoor palms. And there great for anyone just getting into palms to learn how to grow them.

Richard

[happypalms]

6 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Nice thread Richard. Some very cool ones in there like sartorii and deckeriana that I don’t have. Everyone always has room to fit in a few more Chamaedorea!

Yes the list of chameadoreas will never end as they become more available over time. I think I have a few spare sartorii! 🌱

[Tassie_Troy1971]

On 6/1/2025 at 4:57 PM, happypalms said:

Hers a nice selection of some great grower varieties to have in the garden. Easy to grow and beautiful to look at. Just add shade and a little water, most chamaedoreas are cool tolerant. Fantastic palms for any shaded area or patio in a container. The last three pictures are the good old favourite Ernest augustii. 

They all look fantastic 😍 

[happypalms]

7 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Nice thread Richard. Some very cool ones in there like sartorii and deckeriana that I don’t have. Everyone always has room to fit in a few more Chamaedorea!

Ps @tim_brissy_13 the second last picture is one of your Babies!

[happypalms]

35 minutes ago, Tassie_Troy1971 said:

They all look fantastic 😍 

They grow quite good in the subtropics. Not sure what sunny warm Tassie would do to them as fast paced growing rockets soil temperatures would slow em down.

[Mazat]

On 6/1/2025 at 3:31 PM, Harry’s Palms said:

I too like this genus , as do most who have the shade to properly grow them . There are a few that can handle sun , but most just want water and a comfy spot in the shade . They will reward the garden with green and occasional fruit and a smattering of interesting leaf shapes. In my old greenhouse I had many varieties in pots , I lost about half of them . The Klotzchiana , Glaucifolia , potchutalensis only lived a few years because I didn’t have enough shade. Survivors , against all odds were Radicalis ( hardiest for me) TF, Seifritzi , Microspadix , Tepejelote, and Metallica. Now that I have a bit more shade I have introduced “ Ernie” . A happy lil palm that seems to be a bit of a show off on my porch . I think he’s trying to impress his heavy metal mate ( Metallica) “ Nothing Else Matters “! He keeps producing large bifid fronds ….”look what I can do”. The Seifritzi had to be tied up as it has a wandering nature , constantly clumping ( sorry @peachy) and getting big for its britches( stems) at about 10’ tall. The Tepejelote got huge and now pierced through into the morning sun , showing sun burn . Harry

Nice orange / red fruit of the Microspadix . This batch went to a patient PT friend.

Ernesti Augusti showing off . Since this photo , I have added more of this species and Ernie’s has gotten new fronds (2) .

Chamaedorea Metallica . I guess I have both sex’s as the pot on the left sprouted a baby a few years ago . To the left of that is the clumping Tepejelote.

Just to the left of the Plumeria is Mr. Seifritzi with a few new pups , towering up almost as tall as the C. Lutescens. (Golden canes , also with new pups). Also the trunk of a Tepejelote single (non clumping) on the right of the photo. These were all just a couple feet high when they came out of my old greenhouse. 
 Even on very warm days , I stroll through this pathway to the back , or view side of my house. It is cool and the fragrance of Plumeria permeates the way. Harry

thriving magnificently, Harry 🤗

[JohnAndSancho]

I love Chamies. And like you said, they do so well indoors. I had some $$$ Plumosa that did great for me until they just randomly died, and I had a beautiful $$$$$$$$ Benizei that unfortunately got too much sun and heat. I've bought a few of the pots of Elegans, the first 2 probably got over watered, and the last one I tried to separate. One survived, for a while. But my Cataractarum got enormous. I'd love to get some more seeds or sprouts going in here. They're such a diverse little species and they're tough and low maintenance. 

[happypalms]

13 hours ago, JohnAndSancho said:

I love Chamies. And like you said, they do so well indoors. I had some $$$ Plumosa that did great for me until they just randomly died, and I had a beautiful $$$$$$$$ Benizei that unfortunately got too much sun and heat. I've bought a few of the pots of Elegans, the first 2 probably got over watered, and the last one I tried to separate. One survived, for a while. But my Cataractarum got enormous. I'd love to get some more seeds or sprouts going in here. They're such a diverse little species and they're tough and low maintenance. 

I knew as soon as I started to read your post! They died 🤣 I think an intervention is needed in your case in the form of a two week holiday all expenses paid for trip to Jeff Marcus garden in Hawaii, then a stop over to Kew gardens before you return home and if that doesn’t give some horticulture insight I don’t know what will, except for a 4 year university course in agriculture and a diploma. Apart from a total house plant ban but we don’t want that do we, maybe we can send around @DoomsDave @Harry’s Palms @tim_brissy_13 that’s just a couple of gurus I can think of to help with the situation! I just got my certificate in horticulture if those blokes cant help I don’t know what I can do apart from shipping you and sancho over to happypalms nursery for a crash course in palm growing but you will be doing a lot of potting up as a happypalms apprenticeship trainee plus night studies of palm talk going back through the post over years to review them all!!!! Yes all of them!!!!☝️😁

[JohnAndSancho]

8 hours ago, happypalms said:

I knew as soon as I started to read your post! They died 🤣 I think an intervention is needed in your case in the form of a two week holiday all expenses paid for trip to Jeff Marcus garden in Hawaii, then a stop over to Kew gardens before you return home and if that doesn’t give some horticulture insight I don’t know what will, except for a 4 year university course in agriculture and a diploma. Apart from a total house plant ban but we don’t want that do we, maybe we can send around @DoomsDave @Harry’s Palms @tim_brissy_13 that’s just a couple of gurus I can think of to help with the situation! I just got my certificate in horticulture if those blokes cant help I don’t know what I can do apart from shipping you and sancho over to happypalms nursery for a crash course in palm growing but you will be doing a lot of potting up as a happypalms apprenticeship trainee plus night studies of palm talk going back through the post over years to review them all!!!! Yes all of them!!!!☝️😁

Hey man, clearly all of the plants I've killed were factory defective. The Plumosa lived for over 4 years and looked great until I moved here and the cats started chewing the fronds. And one of the biggest mistakes I made in that apartment was just buying way too many plants. There's no way I could have given everything enough light in the space I had. Having said that, I will graciously accept your offer for this all expenses paid palm growing tour and internship 😂 I can't bend over to dig a hole but I can pot the babies up. 

[Harry’s Palms]

@JohnAndSancho No worries! Richard has that auger that does a fine job digging holes . It looks like your duties will be potting bench duties , which you are good at anyway. Harry

[Jonathan]

On 6/2/2025 at 8:12 PM, happypalms said:

They grow quite good in the subtropics. Not sure what sunny warm Tassie would do to them as fast paced growing rockets soil temperatures would slow em down.

No problemo. Plenty of species are happy immigrants to the Avocado Isle, as we are now referred to by those in the know!

[happypalms]

9 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

@JohnAndSancho No worries! Richard has that auger that does a fine job digging holes . It looks like your duties will be potting bench duties , which you are good at anyway. Harry

As long as he doesn’t kill them, knowing his track record!🤣

Richard 

[JohnAndSancho]

1 hour ago, happypalms said:

As long as he doesn’t kill them, knowing his track record!🤣

Richard 

I will be under your expert guidance. I will be Luke Skywalker to your Yoda, instead of just guessing lol. 

 

Hey I've come a long way for someone who's only been doing this for 4 years. 

[happypalms]

17 minutes ago, JohnAndSancho said:

I will be under your expert guidance. I will be Luke Skywalker to your Yoda, instead of just guessing lol. 

 

Hey I've come a long way for someone who's only been doing this for 4 years. 

Luke iam your father!!! You have done well son!!

[Harry’s Palms]

Patience Grasshopper! …… Oops wrong movie!🤔 Harry

[happypalms]

6 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

Patience Grasshopper! …… Oops wrong movie!🤔 Harry

Use the force Luke!……. oops Harry 

Richard 🤣