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How old and how big is your Trachycarpus fortunei ?

Mazat

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we visited my godfather at Lake Walen yesterday. he told us his Trachycarpus fortunei, the oldest is 50 years old and over 25 feet tall.

How old are your Trachycarpus fortunei and how big are they?

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SeanK Grand Master

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My largest was seed-grown in-place. Neighbor tossed seed around the neighborhood in 1999. Mine is the only remaining. I'd say 25-ft tall. I'd like to clean the skirt but I don't have a ladder tall enough.

 

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jwitt Veteran

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@SeanK

I actually like the skirt.  Especially on skinnier trunked trachies.

 

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Harry’s Palms Grand Master

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I kind of lost track of time , but I’m guessing 7 years from a very small baby in a 10” pot . Harryimage.thumb.jpg.bc8e5b64809fbe81a3b79a1ea83d7ea0.jpg

Full south facing sun!

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Mazat Mentor

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14 hours ago, SeanK said:

My largest was seed-grown in-place. Neighbor tossed seed around the neighborhood in 1999. Mine is the only remaining. I'd say 25-ft tall. I'd like to clean the skirt but I don't have a ladder tall enough.

 

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also a beauty 🤗,Sean

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Mazat Mentor

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1 hour ago, Harry’s Palms said:

I kind of lost track of time , but I’m guessing 7 years from a very small baby in a 10” pot . Harryimage.thumb.jpg.bc8e5b64809fbe81a3b79a1ea83d7ea0.jpg

Full south facing sun!

perfect place and fast growing.

wonderful 🤗, Harry 

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Mazat Mentor

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11 hours ago, jwitt said:

@SeanK

I actually like the skirt.  Especially on skinnier trunked trachies.

 

both variants are pretty in their own way

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Jim in Los Altos Grand Master

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22 year old volunteer approximately 30 feet tall shown in the middle of the photo. No special care in my zone 10a location. I’ve been debating on whether to remove its skirt or not. 
 

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Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

zone 10a/9b

sunset zone 16

300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground

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9 minutes ago, Jim in Los Altos said:

22 year old volunteer approximately 30 feet tall shown in the middle of the photo. No special care in my zone 10a location. I’ve been debating on whether to remove its skirt or not. 
 

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What is the palm in the foreground, right?

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1 hour ago, SeanK said:

What is the palm in the foreground, right?

Brahea edulis (Guadalupe palm). 
 

Another view…

 

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Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

zone 10a/9b

sunset zone 16

300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground

Las Palmas Design

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Las Palmas Design & Associates

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13 minutes ago, Jim in Los Altos said:

Brahea edulis (Guadalupe palm). 
 

Another view…

 

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Are they faster than B.armata?

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Jim in Los Altos Grand Master

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1 hour ago, SeanK said:

Are they faster than B.armata?

B. edulis is very slow. I planted the one pictured in 1990 from a two gallon container. 

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Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

zone 10a/9b

sunset zone 16

300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground

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3 hours ago, SeanK said:

Are they faster than B.armata?

In my area , much faster. My summers are averaging low to mid eighties. Harry

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2 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

In my area , much faster. My summers are averaging low to mid eighties. Harry

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Harry, a bit warmer on average here than your area. There are some very tall B. edulis in my area but the really big ones are over fifty years old. 

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Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

zone 10a/9b

sunset zone 16

300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground

Las Palmas Design

Facebook Page

Las Palmas Design & Associates

Elegant Homes and Gardens

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They must grow faster with more heat because mine has been really fast compared to other Brahea's.  Which is surprising coming from the Guadalupe Island. I would think they're climate is closer to like San Diego for example? I could be wrong. 

Brahea edulis on the left 2019

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Hesperia,Southern CA (High Desert area). Zone 8b

Elevation; about 3600 ft.

Lowest temp. I can expect each year 19/20*f lowest since I've been growing palms *13(2007) Hottest temp. Each year *106

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@Jim in Los Altos Yes , the B. Edulis is no rocket but mine passed up my B. Armata by a bunch. The ones I have were the same size , about 4 years apart , the Brahea Edulis in this photo is about 25 years old +/-. I was only referring to the difference between the species. Brahea Edulis is much faster than Brahea Armata. Sorry for the confusion. HarryIMG_4153.thumb.jpeg.939e704f65189815757e585edc703959.jpeg

Brahea Armata is about 4 years younger than the Brahea Edulis . 75055143144__AEA51E8C-B169-40D1-BB2B-E7A6249E96B1.thumb.jpeg.4556d1278c5d76b8f4c2331ca044cecf.jpeg
About triple the size of the B. Armata . 

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Mazat Mentor

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12 hours ago, Jim in Los Altos said:

22 year old volunteer approximately 30 feet tall shown in the middle of the photo. No special care in my zone 10a location. I’ve been debating on whether to remove its skirt or not. 
 

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a very nice, large specimen, Jim.

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2 hours ago, Jubaea_James760 said:

They must grow faster with more heat because mine has been really fast compared to other Brahea's.  Which is surprising coming from the Guadalupe Island. I would think they're climate is closer to like San Diego for example? I could be wrong. 

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immpressive, they are growing so fast 🤗👍

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10 minutes ago, Harry’s Palms said:

@Jim in Los Altos Yes , the B. Edulis is no rocket but mine passed up my B. Armata by a bunch. The ones I have were the same size , about 4 years apart , the Brahea Edulis in this photo is about 25 years old +/-. I was only referring to the difference between the species. Brahea Edulis is much faster than Brahea Armata. Sorry for the confusion. HarryIMG_4153.thumb.jpeg.939e704f65189815757e585edc703959.jpeg

Brahea Armata is about 4 years younger than the Brahea Edulis . 75055143144__AEA51E8C-B169-40D1-BB2B-E7A6249E96B1.thumb.jpeg.4556d1278c5d76b8f4c2331ca044cecf.jpeg
About triple the size of the B. Armata . 

Beautiful both, Harry

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@Jim in Los Altos what is the latitude where you are ? That is warmer than I would have thought . My latitude is about 34 degrees north and I am 20 miles from the beach . I get the onshore flow by about 11am which cools us . The saying in Ventura County is about 1 degree increase in warmth for every mile. . It makes sense that you are in a similar climate because you have some beautiful palms there. I think what helps my Brahea is the South facing slope. It is a blessing in some cases , hopefully for the Mauritiformis ! My other Sabal , Riverside species , loves it. Up on my yard , the Roystonia Oleracae is doing well . Phil Bergman said it was going to die in the first winter . I should have taken the bet! 😂Harry

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First picture left back in 2019 then this year in last pic

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47 minutes ago, Allen said:

First picture left back in 2019 then this year in last pic

2019 and 2022

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Great pictures and specimens🤗👍, Allen.

They are growing we'll and fast, that's my impression

You are about 6ft 2.5in or a bit more ?

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7 hours ago, Jim in Los Altos said:

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Harry, a bit warmer on average here than your area. There are some very tall B. edulis in my area but the really big ones are over fifty years old. 

your temperatures would suit me very well, all of them, the average absolute minimum, absolute maximum and average temperatures. even as a young boy, i had more trouble with colder temperatures than with maximum temperatures such as those in egypt or southern italy, or on the canary islands. Even in Bali I was doing very well. also for Sabine, although she has red hair and fair skin, she just has to be more careful because of the sun ... 🤔😀

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10 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

In my area , much faster. My summers are averaging low to mid eighties. Harry

Also a climate we like very much 🌞

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