Are your palm trees also flowering much later this year?

[Mazat]

We have noticed that all the palm trees in the community garden and also the other exotic and native plants are flowering over 3 weeks later than last year and other years before.

How is it with you this year?

[SeanK]

My Trachycarpei seem about a month behind schedule. 

[Harry’s Palms]

My Trachycarpus F. is flowering as are the Butia , Brahea . The Phoenix already dropping fruit . This has been a drought year here in SoCal but I water frequently. Harry 

[Mazat]

2 hours ago, SeanK said:

My Trachycarpei seem about a month behind schedule. 

okay, also later than usual

[Phoenikakias]

Dasselbe also here! Phoenix loureiroi without even a trace of new spathes, while  this is exactly the time, when it regularly reaches anthesis. 

[Mazat]

7 minutes ago, Phoenikakias said:

Dasselbe also here! Phoenix loureiroi without even a trace of new spathes, while  this is exactly the time, when it regularly reaches anthesis. 

Konstantinos, ein prachtvolles Exemplar, your 

Phönix loureiroi 👍

[jwitt]

My med palm was about a month if not more, late this year. My trachy was about normal with heavy blooms. I attribute both to a colder than normal winter. 2 nights at 4f. 

Rio Rancho NM (7b)

[happypalms]

With more than 1100mm of rain my dypsis saintlucei is flowering for the first time after 23 so perhaps they flowering more this year. 

[gyuseppe]

13 hours ago, Phoenikakias said:

Dasselbe also here! Phoenix loureiroi without even a trace of new spathes, while  this is exactly the time, when it regularly reaches anthesis. 

Konstantinos my phoenix loureiroi humilis male blooms December / January

[Phoenikakias]

1 hour ago, gyuseppe said:

Konstantinos my phoenix loureiroi humilis male blooms December / January

How long are horizontal fronds in your specimen? It may be a matter of provenance, do you know natural habitat of the type of loureiroi you grow?

[dalmatiansoap]

Not palm related but my Bauhinia skipped flowering this season

[gyuseppe]

4 hours ago, Phoenikakias said:

How long are horizontal fronds in your specimen? It may be a matter of provenance, do you know natural habitat of the type of loureiroi you grow?

I bought the seeds from a Belgian seller, who no longer exists, I think his name was Europalm, and he told me that the seeds had been collected in India

[Mazat]

19 hours ago, Phoenikakias said:

Dasselbe also here! Phoenix loureiroi without even a trace of new spathes, while  this is exactly the time, when it regularly reaches anthesis. 

how old is it and what absolute low temperature has it experienced and was there any damage?

[Phoenikakias]

24 minutes ago, gyuseppe said:

I bought the seeds from a Belgian seller, who no longer exists, I think his name was Europalm, and he told me that the seeds had been collected in India

I had traced back my own specimen's origin to SE Asia.

[gyuseppe]

7 minutes ago, Mazat said:

how old is it and what absolute low temperature has it experienced and was there any damage?

mine withstood about -6 degrees celsius, no damage

[Mazat]

12 hours ago, jwitt said:

My med palm was about a month if not more, late this year. My trachy was about normal with heavy blooms. I attribute both to a colder than normal winter. 2 nights at 4f. 

Rio Rancho NM (7b)

according to temperatures absolute minimum, absolute maximum and monthly average temperatures it was actually a mild winter here, but the palm trees and other exotic plants reflect a different result, namely that it was cold or too little precipitation ...

Sabine and I also felt the winter was colder 

[Mazat]

6 minutes ago, gyuseppe said:

mine withstood about -6 degrees celsius, no damage

thank you very much for the information, Gyuseppe. Wow, no damage, that's good news. I thought it would struggle at -5 degrees Celsius and above

I wanted to ask you too, as you also have a beautiful specimen.

[Phoenikakias]

24 minutes ago, Mazat said:

how old is it and what absolute low temperature has it experienced and was there any damage?

In 2004 snow covered for two days and temperature fluctuation between 1 and -2 C (that has been the coldest spell in that area since 1975 and up to now), it did suffer light to medium damage but no spear pull, just like reclinata. Snow cover turned to ice during negative temp values is however a considerable damage-amplifying factor. Dunno how one can convert negative values in such conditions to temp values (in terms of similar damaging effect) on dry conditions...

[Phoenikakias]

3 hours ago, dalmatiansoap said:

Not palm related but my Bauhinia skipped flowering this season

Here only very few flowers

[Mazat]

33 minutes ago, Phoenikakias said:

In 2004 snow covered for two days and temperature fluctuation between 1 and -2 C (that has been the coldest spell in that area since 1975 and up to now), it did suffer light to medium damage but no spear pull, just like reclinata. Snow cover turned to ice during negative temp values is however a considerable damage-amplifying factor. Dunno how one can convert negative values in such conditions to temp values (in terms of similar damaging effect) on dry conditions...

Thank you very much, Konstantinos for the Informations.

This freezing of the snow cover on the palm tree also seems to cause much more severe damage to a palm tree. We experienced this with a 4-year-old Chamaerops humilis, which died in its old location after two days of frost with temperatures as low as -9 degrees Celsius, followed by two days of freezing.

[Mazat]

39 minutes ago, Phoenikakias said:

Here only very few flowers

what type of palm do you have next to it in the pots?

 

[Mazat]

also later jasminoides polyanthum.

in full bloom and it smells so strong that it almost makes you a little woozy

 

[Phoenikakias]

46 minutes ago, Mazat said:

what type of palm do you have next to it in the pots?

 

European Fan Palm

[dalmatiansoap]

1 hour ago, Phoenikakias said:

Here only very few flowers

Hmm, strange. We did have one cold front mid April. That also affected my Guava and prolonged citrus blooming time. Avocados also had reduced blooming 

[Mazat]

4 hours ago, Phoenikakias said:

Here only very few flowers

also a very good variant, as it already takes up a lot of space planted directly in the plot. we had one in a pot at the beginning, but it didn't work well, it didn't grow well with us, but with a friend of sabine's nearby it thrives better in a pot on the terrace than it did with us at that time.

[Phoenikakias]

4 hours ago, dalmatiansoap said:

Hmm, strange. We did have one cold front mid April. That also affected my Guava and prolonged citrus blooming time. Avocados also had reduced blooming 

Strange is only an understatement regarding the weather this spring!  We are not having a normal and regular transition to summer. This has affected several tropical fruiting trees but equally strangely 4 mango varieties (Osten, Irwin, Tommy Atkins, Keitt) have been blooming and setting fruits. Whether they will be later aborted is a different story.

[Mazat]

we're right there with you, Konstantinos.
it seems that the seasons are getting shorter and so are the transitions. everything blooms at a different time, sometimes even in winter instead of spring, to give just one example.
it makes you think.
we hope that your fruits all continue to thrive properly without dying until you can take them off the plants

[Fusca]

Here this year my Butia odorata flowered for the first time after 6 years planted.  Other palms flowered at normal time (Livistona chinensis, Phoenix roebelenii, Washingtonia, Chamaedorea).

Also my transplanted Amaryllis flowered for the first time in 3 years.  I also had an avocado 'Joey' flower just to die a month later following an unusual flood event where it sat in water for several days. 

[Palmensammler]

My two bigger Trachies seem to be on time.  Both send flowers like crazy. But we had a mild and wet winter time so no reasons for a delay.

But now we are facing a long period without any rain. Good for my Yuccas, Agaves and Cacti. Bad for the rest.

Eckhard  

[Phoenikakias]

8 hours ago, Palmensammler said:

My two bigger Trachies seem to be on time.  Both send flowers like crazy. But we had a mild and wet winter time so no reasons for a delay.

But now we are facing a long period without any rain. Good for my Yuccas, Agaves and Cacti. Bad for the rest.

Eckhard  

You will have to provide by hand some water to the most thirsty plants. Drought this way is not bad for the plants, only for your free time.

[Mazat]

10 hours ago, Fusca said:

Here this year my Butia odorata flowered for the first time after 6 years planted.  Other palms flowered at normal time (Livistona chinensis, Phoenix roebelenii, Washingtonia, Chamaedorea).

Also my transplanted Amaryllis flowered for the first time in 3 years.  I also had an avocado 'Joey' flower just to die a month later following an unusual flood event where it sat in water for several days. 

we are delighted with your butia odorata and also with the amaryllis, that's great 🤗 

Also good with your other palms 👍

Oh dear, that's sad and a pity about the avocado "Joey"☹️

[mlovecan]

Palms much earlier, fruit much later.

[Palmensammler]

Here some pictures of my two bigger Trachies.  Sizzes are around 3 and 4 meters . Both had been protected last time 7 years ago. 

Greetings 

Eckhard 

[Palmensammler]

13 hours ago, Phoenikakias said:

You will have to provide by hand some water to the most thirsty plants. Drought this way is not bad for the plants, only for your free time.

I have a very long water hose to give them as much water  as needed 😇

Greetings Eckhard 

[Mazat]

On 5/16/2025 at 7:52 PM, Palmensammler said:

Here some pictures of my two bigger Trachies.  Sizzes are around 3 and 4 meters . Both had been protected last time 7 years ago. 

Greetings 

Eckhard 

your Trachycarpus fortunei are beauties 🤗, Eckhard.

[Palmensammler]

Thanks. As they were planted as small seedlings their trunks became really  fat. Nine other Trachies (hybrids and pure ones) are growing steadily, spreaded all over the garden. 

I hope to see the others mature one day.

Eckhard 

[Mazat]

now the chamerops are all flowering properly too

[SeanK]

I have a fig tree with fruit. But I think we never got the breba crop - the fruit that comes before the leaves.

[Janni]

Here in Constance everything seems to be quite normal. Only two of my Trachycarpus do flower and they do it on time.  All other Trachys in the neighbourhood bloom right now.
Although we`ve had a mild winter, my Chamaedorea Radicalis did not handle it well.  All four of them caught a fungus! I think they´ll make it for now, but I doubt they will be strong enough for the next winter. I have an experimental Musa Basjoo grove, which I did not protect at all for a couple of years now. This year it´s the first, where it froze completely to the ground. Until now it struggles to grow back. All other fruit trees in my garden already bloomed a few weeks ago. Much earlier, than usual. Even the olive tree is almost blooming already.