Chrysalidocarpus pembanus fruit size.

[Tracy]

I seem yo recall hearing that the fruit on Chrysalidocarpus pembanus is small.  I haven't paid much attention to dropping fruit from mine in the past.  This morning, an inflorescence dropped giving me an opportunity to look at the fruit up close.  Normal size or are these undeveloped fruit?

Edited May 5 by Tracy

[Johnny Palmseed]

They look pretty close to what I remember. I found a husk of a seed still attached to a seedling and it is about 3/16” X 3/8”.

[Fusca]

I think they're a bit small yet so I'd say underdeveloped at this point.  Here's a pic of some cleaned seeds at normal size:

[Harry’s Palms]

Similar in size to a P. Roebelini of which I have an abundance of right now. Harry

[Tracy]

37 minutes ago, Harry’s Palms said:

Similar in size to a P. Roebelini of which I have an abundance of right now. Harry

Unfortunately, there isn't anything in the bowl that Fusca shared, maybe a teaspoon would give perspective.  Regarding Phoenix roebelenii, I used to cut off both the male and female growth specifically so I didn't get volunteers when I had them.  A snapshot of some in hand would be helpful for perspective. Thank you Harry.  I'm not really interested in germinating my C pembanus seeds either.  It is solely curiosity.

[Fusca]

15 hours ago, Tracy said:

Unfortunately, there isn't anything in the bowl that Fusca shared, maybe a teaspoon would give perspective.

While this is true, I still think the photo shows how elongated the seeds are after cleaning.  Your original pic shows fruits only slightly elongated.  Harry's comparison to Phoenix roebelenii isn't an exact one - I would say the pembanus SEED is roughly the size of a large roebelenii FRUIT.

From Palmpedia for pembanus:

"FRUIT dark red, oblong-ovoid 12-15 mm x 5-7 mm; endocarp fibrous the fibres anastomosing.  SEED 10.5-11 mm x 5-5.5 mm"

[JD in the OC]

Looks underdeveloped.

Only way to find out is to cut one open with a box cutter knife and look for white coconut meat and an embryo inside 

JD

[Tracy]

39 minutes ago, JD in the OC said:

Looks underdeveloped.

Only way to find out is to cut one open with a box cutter knife and look for white coconut meat and an embryo inside 

JD

I tossed them at the foot of the palm and didn't bother cleaning them.  Thanks to all for the feedback.   I have several other Chrysalidocarpus species which have produced viable fruit at much younger and smaller size.  I can only assume there is something lacking in my climate for pembanus. 

[JD in the OC]

On 5/6/2025 at 8:47 PM, Tracy said:

I tossed them at the foot of the palm and didn't bother cleaning them.  Thanks to all for the feedback.   I have several other Chrysalidocarpus species which have produced viable fruit at much younger and smaller size.  I can only assume there is something lacking in my climate for pembanus. 

Probably just needs more time to develop and mature better inflors...