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Archontophoenix purpurea seeds

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Hi all

I picked myself up 50 seeds off the ground under a mature palm and was hoping to grow them. They have all passed the float test after I removed the red fruit stuff. I'm wondering if anyone here has a recommended method for germinating A. purpurea ? I was just going to put them in soil and hope for the best but any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Attached photos of the seeds,  last pic is comparison with A. cunninghamiana seed showing how much larger they are. Very cool to see.

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Nice little haul. As a mad scientist germinater myself @happypalms it’s easy to germinate them. Bottom heating 28 degrees Celsius coco coir perlite mixture just slightly moist (squeeze a handful of your mix if drops of water come out it’s too wet). Use a container of your preference and cover it so you have complete darkness (etoliation process) or a styrofoam box with a lid. Just cover your seeds with a medium not too deep. All the seeds in the pictures were covered. Then just  sit back and wait. 

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Wow yours are looking great.  Awesome. I'll definitely give your method a go and get the heating gear and that perlite mixture and the rest  that I'll need for it . Thanks happypalms.

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Think i might have buggerd this. I put the seeds in and ice cream container with the lid on. Mixed perlite and some Trachycarpus fortunei trunk fiber, Couldn't find coco coir.
Sitting on heat pad for 2 days, Had a look inside and noticed white mold on seeds...Should I  wash the seeds and try again with some store bought sphagnum moss....Does the container need air holes?

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You can still save them I think. 

Soak them in diluted bleach, just normal household bleach is fine...4 to 1 with water maybe, for an hour. That should kill the fungus. 

The growing media needs to be reasonably sterile, I usually use 50/50 perlite/peat. It's pretty cheap compared to the price of seeds, and ultimately plants!

I reckon the trachy fibre was the problem...just had too many wild pathogens. 

Palm seeds germinate well in sealed plastic bags, so shouldn't need air holes...however they look pretty tight in there. Maybe use two containers, could try putting the container in a plastic bag rather than putting the lid back on?

Good luck!

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South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

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My friend and fellow palm enthusiast lives about 2-3 blocks from me . He has a few mature Purpurae and Maxima that drop many seeds. The ground around the palms look like grass! They germinate so freely, he scooped the seedlings up and formed a community pot for me . Now they are about 10-12” high and forming pinnate fronds in the ground. I’d guess they are only a few years old. We are in a solid 10a climate zone so no heat required , although @happypalms method is fast and works best. Good luck ! Harry

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Tyrone Grand Master

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On 4/11/2025 at 1:47 PM, PalmCode said:

Hi all

I picked myself up 50 seeds off the ground under a mature palm and was hoping to grow them. They have all passed the float test after I removed the red fruit stuff. I'm wondering if anyone here has a recommended method for germinating A. purpurea ? I was just going to put them in soil and hope for the best but any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Attached photos of the seeds,  last pic is comparison with A. cunninghamiana seed showing how much larger they are. Very cool to see.

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Good haul of purpurea seeds. Good to know they fruit in NZ. You almost never see this species around here, let alone ladened with seeds. I’ve planted many on my property so hopefully in a few years I’ll get some homegrown seed. 
These are very easy germinaters. Follow Richards advice and they will perform well for you. The seeds are large compared to the other 5 Archontophoenix and so are there leaves. You will get large bifid leaves from the start. 

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Thanks for all the tips everyone, been a big help. Giving this another try now with more sterile media. Couldn't find peat moss so have to go with 50-50 sphagnum moss / perlite mix with a thin layer over the seeds. Hope that's ok.

I've got one container with the lid on and one container with a plastic bag covering it sitting on heat pad. Still a little crowded in there but good luck to them.

That will be cool to be able to grow off your ones in a few years Tyrone.

I may have to go back and grab some more seed as there's plenty more just sitting on the ground. More the better right?

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2 hours ago, PalmCode said:

Thanks for all the tips everyone, been a big help. Giving this another try now with more sterile media. Couldn't find peat moss so have to go with 50-50 sphagnum moss / perlite mix with a thin layer over the seeds. Hope that's ok.

I've got one container with the lid on and one container with a plastic bag covering it sitting on heat pad. Still a little crowded in there but good luck to them.

That will be cool to be able to grow off your ones in a few years Tyrone.

I may have to go back and grab some more seed as there's plenty more just sitting on the ground. More the better right?

Yeah, get them all. Even the iffy ones. 

The spaghnum perlite mix will work. Once they’ve sprouted pot them up individually or you’ll have a mass of tangled roots. That’s my thoughts anyway. 

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2 hours ago, Tyrone said:

Yeah, get them all. Even the iffy ones. 

The spaghnum perlite mix will work. Once they’ve sprouted pot them up individually or you’ll have a mass of tangled roots. That’s my thoughts anyway. 

Yep,  I'll do that.👍

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I just sow individually into 2” tubes 

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1 hour ago, KrisKupsch said:

I just sow individually into 2” tubes 

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Good grief! 

They look perfect Kris...curse our quarantine regulations...not really, though I'd love to buy 20 off you.  Do you have a seed source somewhere that you'd be willing to share? Have found these strangely difficult to find.

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South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

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2 hours ago, KrisKupsch said:

I just sow individually into 2” tubes 

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Yeah!! Nice!  Those are looking really awesome and... there's heaps! love it

 

 

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Got about 10 germinating at the moment. Definitely going to keep these in the shade.

The parent palm is at it again by the looks.

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Very good. More should follow. 
It’s really good that they fruit in NZ. 
I remember reading a long time ago probably here on Palmtalk that they don’t fruit in SE QLD. I don’t know if that’s true now. They are a palm from the mountains of NE QLD so maybe they need the cool that NZ gets. I’ve been up to Mt Lewis in November and it was definitely cool needing a jacket even being so close to summer. 
They grow easy for me down here, and look much better than they did in Perth where they seem to struggle on the coastal sandy soil. My heavier wetter soil seems to keep them happy. They seem to like full sun and struggle in too much shade as well. I’d love to get mine seeding one day. 

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Tyrone said:

Very good. More should follow. 
It’s really good that they fruit in NZ. 
I remember reading a long time ago probably here on Palmtalk that they don’t fruit in SE QLD. I don’t know if that’s true now. They are a palm from the mountains of NE QLD so maybe they need the cool that NZ gets. I’ve been up to Mt Lewis in November and it was definitely cool needing a jacket even being so close to summer. 
They grow easy for me down here, and look much better than they did in Perth where they seem to struggle on the coastal sandy soil. My heavier wetter soil seems to keep them happy. They seem to like full sun and struggle in too much shade as well. I’d love to get mine seeding one day. 

I'd love yours to seed as well, because we're never going to get any seed out of their home state because Queenslanders don't share! 

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South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

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9 minutes ago, Jonathan said:

I'd love yours to seed as well, because we're never going to get any seed out of their home state because Queenslanders don't share! 

It’s a palm mafia code thing! I think if they share they end up swimming with the fishes! 

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Tyrone Grand Master

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2 hours ago, Jonathan said:

I'd love yours to seed as well, because we're never going to get any seed out of their home state because Queenslanders don't share! 

I will let you know when they seed. 😉

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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