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Critters loving Livistona chinensis fruits


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Every time my L chinensis ripens fruits (every couple of years), I can see a layer of cleaned seeds below the crown. Obviously a kind  of animal loves the pulp. I can think of rats but I have also seen once a magpie carrying a fruit. I had once to clean also blue colored bird droppings in my balcony, because I made the mistake to leave full of water my dog's bowl, while I was absent. But I think a bird in the size of a magpie would swallow the whole fruit. How possible is that a bird can clean off the pulp so thoroughly?20250316_153112.thumb.jpg.7496de2196c37a704f37f27c1455d2ca.jpg20250317_143901.thumb.jpg.e7590cf6ddb3e119cb7f080dc0121e4e.jpg20250323_155708.thumb.jpg.214b4d3aff0622c1f3031e6d7cab90ec.jpg20250323_155717.thumb.jpg.8bb3a3e28330f0f4529939b53df41807.jpg

 

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That is interesting. My guess would be a squirrel as the ground squirrels love my Butia fruit . I have never seen clean seeds though . After a soaking they would be ready to plant! Harry

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Mi L.chinensis are not fruiting yet, but I have a lot of other palms with fruits.  And a lot of different birds, squirrels and bats eat the fruits. The bird swallow the whole fruits if they can, but in some cases they only eat the pulp and leave a quite clean seeds behind.  Squirrels also eat pulp, but sometimes also the seeds, depending on the species. the seeds cleaned by squirres do not look es clean a those from birds.

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konstantinos I also find 50% of the seeds fallen to the ground cleaned from the pulp

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9 hours ago, Phoenikakias said:

Jedes Mal, wenn meine L. chinensis Früchte reift (alle paar Jahre), sehe ich unter der Krone eine Schicht gereinigter Samen. Offensichtlich liebt ein Tier das Fruchtfleisch. Ich denke an Ratten, aber ich habe auch schon einmal eine Elster gesehen, die eine Frucht trug. Einmal musste ich auch blauen Vogelkot auf meinem Balkon entfernen, weil ich den Fehler gemacht hatte, den Napf meines Hundes während meiner Abwesenheit mit Wasser gefüllt stehen zu lassen. Aber ich glaube, ein Vogel von der Größe einer Elster würde die ganze Frucht verschlucken. Wie kann ein Vogel das Fruchtfleisch so gründlich entfernen?20250316_153112.thumb.jpg.7496de2196c37a704f37f27c1455d2ca.jpg20250317_143901.thumb.jpg.e7590cf6ddb3e119cb7f080dc0121e4e.jpg20250323_155708.thumb.jpg.214b4d3aff0622c1f3031e6d7cab90ec.jpg20250323_155717.thumb.jpg.8bb3a3e28330f0f4529939b53df41807.jpg

 

a neighbor across the street always has a visit from a crow on his large balcony. he takes the tree nuts from a nearby tree in his beak, hops up onto the neighbor's roof and then drops the tree nut onto the concrete floor of the balcony. he does this until the shell of the nut cracks and then he opens it with his beak and eats the whole nut.
we had seen this happen several times before. the other crows watched and later tried it too. 

these birds are extremely intelligent. i absolutely trust them to clean the seeds. great job.

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5 hours ago, masatepino said:

The bird swallow the whole fruits if they can, but in some cases they only eat the pulp and leave a quite clean seeds behind. 

I believe this is what explains it. I’m pretty sure a lot of birds like to swallow fruits whole in general, and they digest the fruit while excreting the seed relatively unscathed. If anything it actually helps plants reproduce by dispersing the seeds along with wearing away the seed coat allowing them to germinate quicker.

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