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Hey guys can you help me identify what butia is this?

capitata or odorata?

I have a butia capitata and that one has stiffer and silverier leaves than this one. I bought it in a nursery as a Butia they dont know which type tho

 

 

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The vast majority of Butia in cultivation are odorata. I’d say it’s extremely likely to be odorata which is quite variable. 

Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

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    For me , it’s hard to tell when they are young . Tim is right , color is variable on the Oderata . Mine is silver / blue depending on how the light hits it. The trunk on the Capitata is much smaller , judging by the examples I have seen posted on here. When mine was young it was pale green and started the silver coloring when it formed a trunk. The one in the photo has very long fronds that appear to be from being in shade for quite a while. The young Oderata I’ve seen usually are sun grown and more tightly held . This may be an indication ? I dunno , there hasn’t been any true Capitata available in our area. Harry

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    Thank you guys for the information!

    Im the opposite here I mostly see capitatas and I have never seen an odorata in real life

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    Here , all the Butia in the nurseries are labeled Capitata but are indeed Oderata. Mine was labeled “Bonetti “ which was not a true species. Harry

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    6 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

    Here , all the Butia in the nurseries are labeled Capitata but are indeed Oderata. Mine was labeled “Bonetti “ which was not a true species. Harry

    interesting haha I thought in california you would get what you are looking for haha

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    9 hours ago, Borosbobo said:

    Thank you guys for the information!

    Im the opposite here I mostly see capitatas and I have never seen an odorata in real life

    It's more likely that the opposite is true...there's been a lot of confusion over these two species, as @tim_brissy_13 and @Harry’s Palms mentioned above. Despite being reclassified 15 years ago nearly all 'capitata' in cultivation are actually odorata, the nursery trade and growers have been very slow to pick up the change. 

    If you have a look at the link below to Palmpedia you can see that true capitata has a far more slender trunk than odorata...so if the plants you are used to seeing are robust, they're far more likely to be odorata.

    Palmpedia true capitata

     

     

    South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

    Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

     

    Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

     

    Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

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    19 hours ago, Jonathan said:

    It's more likely that the opposite is true...there's been a lot of confusion over these two species, as @tim_brissy_13 and @Harry’s Palms mentioned above. Despite being reclassified 15 years ago nearly all 'capitata' in cultivation are actually odorata, the nursery trade and growers have been very slow to pick up the change. 

    If you have a look at the link below to Palmpedia you can see that true capitata has a far more slender trunk than odorata...so if the plants you are used to seeing are robust, they're far more likely to be odorata.

    Palmpedia true capitata

     

     

    Thank you for the info!

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