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Another palm ID

Steve Mac
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It is a Chamaedorea of some sort (I think) with a very distinctive leaf shape and pattern.

I have drawn on it the show the palm in question. 

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Cheers Steve

It is not dead, it is just senescence.

   

 

 

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    C. elatior?

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    Looks like C. Oblongata 

     

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    Not chamaedorea, not sure it is palm?

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    5 hours ago, idontknowhatnametuse said:

    C. elatior?

    That was my first thoughts too. 

    South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

    Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

     

    Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

     

    Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

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    Thanks Guys, @Jonathan @idontknowhatnametuse yes it is elatior.  @Crafty1 it does look like oblongata, but the stems are thinner, the leaflets are thinner and longer and the elatior leaflets have a longer skinnier tip.  @gilles06 as the only climbing palm with no hooks on it, it is perhaps one of the least 'Chamy' looking of all Chamys.

    What tricked me was that I forgot that there are different forms, and that they have different juvenile and adult leaves.

    This is my other elatior with big bifid leaves, that has not reached the climbing stage yet. The other one appears to  have gone straight to adult leaf style from seed.

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    Cheers Steve

    It is not dead, it is just senescence.

       

     

     

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    Yeah definitely C elatior. Mine have both the bifid fronds and fully split climbing fronds after it has started to climb 6-7 years from germination.  Photo from last September. They are MUCH bigger now. These are rockets after they start to climb. 
     

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    Tim Brisbane

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    There appears to be 3 types of C elatior, One fine stem and leaf and starts climbing at an early age.

    The second form is a large bifold leaf for a few years before becoming pinnate. It has a  a robust stem, 

    the third is a thin stem branching form

    regards

    Colin

    coastal north facing location

    100klm south of Sydney

    NSW

    Australia

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    On 3/12/2025 at 8:30 PM, Crafty1 said:

    Looks like C. Oblongata 

     

    no oblongata

    GIUSEPPE

    I would say elatior but what the heck is going on with that black rachis?! Makes me think it's not a palm... 

    2 hours ago, Mandrew968 said:

    I would say elatior but what the heck is going on with that black rachis?! Makes me think it's not a palm... 

     

    On 3/12/2025 at 3:45 AM, Steve Mac said:

    I have drawn on it the show the palm in question. 

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    14 hours ago, John2468 said:

     

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    Well quit drawing on your palms and maybe you will get a better ID. Chamaedorea elatior 100%

    I bought one at the palm show recently and have no idea what variety it will be Now that I know there is a wide leaf version, I want one of those instead of the thing I bought while suffering a palm purchasing mania.

    Peachy

    I came. I saw. I purchased

     

     

    27.35 south.

    Warm subtropical, with occasional frosts.

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