Archontophoenix Albang palm, any idea how big these get?

[bpc]

I seen these at a local nursery today

just wondering if anybody knows how big these get? 

the lady at the nursery said the will retain there current appearance and grow to about 4m high

But a Bangalow palm or an Alexandrea Palm look nothing like this when mature, so is this possible?

I'm pretty new to palms but I'm after the look of a clumping palm to screen my fence, without the mess / maintenance of a clumping palm

[Frond-friend42]

WELCOME TO PALM TALK!

I didn't know about this hybrid.  They are fast growers, for palms. You can definitely get a tall barrier going (but trunks can be seen past so it won't be a complete visual barrier once they move up). Most palm need to dry out between drinks but these do well with frequent watering.

[Harry’s Palms]

It looks to me like there are quite a few palms in each pot. Archontophoenix tend to do ok being planted close to one another , I have two that are married together and doing very well. As for that hybrid, I have never heard of it but I would imagine that there are some out there as both parent palms are fairly common. Those look like they are shade grown so expect some set back if planted out in unprotected sun . Even though they look tall , they are still young. Harry

[Jonathan]

8 hours ago, bpc said:

I seen these at a local nursery today

just wondering if anybody knows how big these get? 

the lady at the nursery said the will retain there current appearance and grow to about 4m high

But a Bangalow palm or an Alexandrea Palm look nothing like this when mature, so is this possible?

I'm pretty new to palms but I'm after the look of a clumping palm to screen my fence, without the mess / maintenance of a clumping palm

It's pretty staggering how anyone in the nursery business could come to the conclusion that by crossing two species which grow to at least 20m you could end up with a 4m tall palm! Your scepticism is well founded...these will get very tall, usually very quickly.

[sonoranfans]

6 minutes ago, Jonathan said:

It's pretty staggering how anyone in the nursery business could come to the conclusion that by crossing two species which grow to at least 20m you could end up with a 4m tall palm! Your scepticism is well founded...these will get very tall, usually very quickly.

Yeah I laughed at the 4m  claim.  I saw a mature alabang about 10 years ago and it was bigger than either parent in crown width and its height was at least 7m and it looked pretty young,  As a F1 hybrid they will be variable in genetic expression, including variable looks.  Seeing them planted in that small pot had me asking what were they thinking?  My dypsis lutecens are more than 5m.  IMO those need to be separated and no they will not be a good visual barrier.   A. Arlexandre typically grow to a 18" +/- thick trunk bases. 

[Jim in Los Altos]

They will be at least as tall as either species which means BIG! 

[Tracy]

3 hours ago, Jonathan said:

It's pretty staggering how anyone in the nursery business could come to the conclusion that by crossing two species which grow to at least 20m you could end up with a 4m tall palm! Your skepticism is well founded...these will get very tall, usually very quickly.

I thought it worth pointing out that hybrid vigor would probably result in them achieving greater size faster than either of the parents as well.  I was a bit puzzled by the name at first as I had never heard or thought about hybrids of Archontophoenix, but the only real reason to create a hybrid might be to try to get them to grow faster for some reason.

[sonoranfans]

19 minutes ago, Tracy said:

I thought it worth pointing out that hybrid vigor would probably result in them achieving greater size faster than either of the parents as well.  I was a bit puzzled by the name at first as I had never heard or thought about hybrids of Archontophoenix, but the only real reason to create a hybrid might be to try to get them to grow faster for some reason.

If I recall correctly the alabang was thought to be more cold tolerant than the alexandre and more sun tolerant than the bangalow.  In my area bangalows grow kind of scrawny, alexanders are bigger and are more sun tolerant as well.  So more like a cold tolerant alexandre.   The palm I saw was impressive indeed and a deeper green than my alexandre.  

[LowDesertBoil]

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[peachy]

Mine is nearly 6 metres high. It was planted 4 years ago from a 13cm pot and 25cm over all height.  I don't like how they crammed so many into one pot, doesn't bode well for the long term in my opinion. I would be separating them. Not a good choice for screening either.

Peachy

[bpc]

Thanks for the reply Peachy, Have you got a picture of it?

[Tyrone]

To be honest in Australia, I reckon most Archontophoenix sold in the nurseries are a cross between alexandrae and cunninghamiana. This cross also sets viable seeds too, they are not sterile. The reason I say that the nursery trade is mostly selling Allabangs probably without knowing it is my experience growing wild collected cunninghamiana. They look different from some of the cunninghamiana I’ve bought in WA. They may not be 50/50 but the genetic pool is a little mixed up over here with both species being very common and seeding all over the place. You also get the big stores selling them as house plants and obviously completely mis labeling them.