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palm trees in our community garden near lake constance usda zone 8a

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Hello everyone
I have been following this interesting forum for some time now.
You get a lot of important information and it is simply excellent for those interested.
here i have some palm species from our community garden that were planted about 10 years ago like the chamaerops humilis and cerifera, trachycarpus fortunei. they have not been protected for the last five years. the cordyline australis is new since the beginning of september 2024. my wife and i have been dealing with palms and exotic plants for 15 years.
best regards

Tom

 

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Welcome to the forums! Your cerifera looks awesome. The cholla peeping through is a nice touch (certainly wouldn't go near any of that if I were a hungry animal)

Lovely! Lake Constance is a beautiful place 

The Mediterranean Fan looks very nice. Is the cholla O.imbricata or O.whipplei?

Looking good and welcome!

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11 hours ago, Mazat said:

... the cordyline australis is new since the beginning of september 2024. ...

They appear to be Yucca, not Cordyline australis. Regards.

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Swolte: thank you very much. Yes, we have been pricked several times like acupuncture ☹️, also from the yucca aliofolia - spanish dagger 😬( picture 2)

Colin110082: Yes. 

SeanK: thank you very much. Yes, it is cylindropuntia imbricata.

Allen: thank you very much.

Las Palmas Norte: okay, these are not cordyline australis in this case. i rescued these 3 plants from the compost, where some people just threw them in. or did you mean the other one from picture 2 ?

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what kind of phönix canariensis or phönix reclinata is this, ? it has 3 stems and a large root ball. i got it at the end of august 2024 for 6 euro, nobody knew what it was, it was only labeled phönix plant.

the other plant was sold to me as dypsis lutescens at the same garden center. or is it possibly a howea forsteriana ?

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I believe I tried the O.whipplei with little success, but O.imbricata did OK here in Atlanta. The latter tolerates our east coast moisture better than the former. Even at -15°C it was good. I got mine in New Mexico.

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yes, an acquaintance of mine had this experience. in particular, the heavy rainfall (1,500 mm / year) in his town and surroundings and the sometimes very low minimum temperatures in the winter months were a problem for his Cylindropuntia whipplei. the plant died. 

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Welcome to the forum Tom. I have been to the Bodensee and visited Lindau and Bregenz many years ago. The scenery was very beautiful, with many pretty villages. 

I remember that there was a small island named Mainau with lots of exotics plants. The lake hardly ever freezes over, so that might help to create a microclimate a bit like Lago Maggiore. 

 

 

3 hours ago, SeanK said:

I believe I tried the O.whipplei with little success, but O.imbricata did OK here in Atlanta. The latter tolerates our east coast moisture better than the former. ...

I have both species and both perform very well and seem unfazed by our heavy Autumn and Winter rain/ sporadic snow. This whipplei is now 4' wide and just shy of 2' tall from a small cutting 4 years ago. I've cut it back on a few occasions as it tends to grow out over the concrete walk. Looks like I'll be attending to that again in the Spring.

 

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Konstanz am Bodensee. One of my favorite places in Germany and largely unknown in these part of the world. Mainau is fascinating.

 

 

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Jack Lord: yes, that's what i thought. constance is a relatively large 😆city by local standards
the island of mainau is a “little celebrity” and is well suited for some exotic plants due to the warming climate and offers wonderful plants to visit.

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On 12/16/2024 at 1:36 PM, Las Palmas Norte said:

I have both species and both perform very well and seem unfazed by our heavy Autumn and Winter rain/ sporadic snow. This whipplei is now 4' wide and just shy of 2' tall from a small cutting 4 years ago. I've cut it back on a few occasions as it tends to grow out over the concrete walk. Looks like I'll be attending to that again in the Spring.

 

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These chollas are much more attractive than the pad cacti.

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On 12/16/2024 at 5:33 PM, Marco67 said:

Welcome to the forum Tom. I have been to the Bodensee and visited Lindau and Bregenz many years ago. The scenery was very beautiful, with many pretty villages. 

I remember that there was a small island named Mainau with lots of exotics plants. The lake hardly ever freezes over, so that might help to create a microclimate a bit like Lago Maggiore. 

 

 

Marco67: thank you very much. a bit late i know 🤔. yes, it is.

yes, the lake is an advantage and helps a little.

you are in usda zone 8b in zoetermeer with oceanic climate cfb.  also very interesting and i think your absolute minimum temperatures are less deep than ours. our communal garden often gets cold winds and so the temperature drops a few degrees lower than directly by the lake, there they have usda zone 8b also.

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On 12/15/2024 at 12:52 PM, Mazat said:

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What kind of plant is this?

Looking at the flower stalks I assume it's a Yucca gloriosa or a hybrid with gloriosa in it. You often get hybrids when you buy gloriosa. 

I have tons of yucca but only two true gloriosa. 

Eckhard 

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On 12/16/2024 at 7:36 PM, Las Palmas Norte said:

I have both species and both perform very well and seem unfazed by our heavy Autumn and Winter rain/ sporadic snow. This whipplei is now 4' wide and just shy of 2' tall from a small cutting 4 years ago. I've cut it back on a few occasions as it tends to grow out over the concrete walk. Looks like I'll be attending to that again in the Spring.

 

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Agree. I planted a small Cylindropuntia whipplei seedling and it endured the last 2 winters which were very wet without any issues. I don't have a current picture but it's still a lot smaller than yours.

  

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13 hours ago, Denis.green.garden said:

What kind of plant is this?

hello Denis

It's a ficus carica. i just haven't pruned it yet. a friend who has several trees told me to do this around the middle of January. they are (2 pieces) 3 years old.
kind regards from Lake constance 

Tom

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12 hours ago, Palmensammler said:

Looking at the flower stalks I assume it's a Yucca gloriosa or a hybrid with gloriosa in it. You often get hybrids when you buy gloriosa. 

I have tons of yucca but only two true gloriosa. 

Eckhard 

hello Eckhard

It's a ficus carica. i just haven't pruned it yet. but yes it looks like yucca gloriosa 😀

kind regards from Lake constance 

Tom

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Ah, ok.

It looked a bit like frozem flowers of a Yucca. 🤣

Greetings to Lake constance

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