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How would a CIDP do in zone 6 IF


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How would a CIDP do in zone 6 if it had all of these protection precautions; If I planted it facing the south close to a wall protected from north, east, west, and south winds, if I wrapped the tunk in 2 layers of burlap, if I put heating tape around the trunk if I wrapped the crown in 3 layers of burlap if I put the fronds over the crown then put 3 layers of burlap over the fronds (although I don't care that much if it gets defoliated) as well as put heating tape and made sure it had well-draining soil. I know this is a lot of information but if anyone could tell me in their opinion from their personal experience how they think this setup would do I am wanting to hear it regardless of its negativity or positivity. Have a great day and thank you!

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Didn't your brother go over this some time ago?

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"Location: Zone 6" doesn't tell the whole story.  If you really want people to help you, list your city, state/country.  There are lots of variations in Zone 6 locations.  Just a suggestion that may help you get what you are looking for.

Winter Springs (Orlando area), Florida

Zone 9b/10a

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On 11/15/2024 at 5:57 PM, COpalms said:

How would a CIDP do in zone 6 if it had all of these protection precautions; If I planted it facing the south close to a wall protected from north, east, west, and south winds, if I wrapped the tunk in 2 layers of burlap, if I put heating tape around the trunk if I wrapped the crown in 3 layers of burlap if I put the fronds over the crown then put 3 layers of burlap over the fronds (although I don't care that much if it gets defoliated) as well as put heating tape and made sure it had well-draining soil. I know this is a lot of information but if anyone could tell me in their opinion from their personal experience how they think this setup would do I am wanting to hear it regardless of its negativity or positivity. Have a great day and thank you!

Some of the PT members might give you better information about protection.  From what I see is these people spend a good amount of time preparing,  investing money and time to keep their palms alive for as long as they can.  It isn't that easy as it looks like on pictures.  If money isn't an issue build a tall greenhouse .  The issue is how long are your freezes ? I assume your ground freezes too . If you need to wrap a palm tree for a half year there's no way it will make it through the first year.  I'm not trying to be negative just give you a realistic answer.

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It’s not even worth attempting a CIDP in zone 6. They will never look good at all or grow properly in zone 6. They will suffer from spear pull every winter/spring if wrapped for months on end with no sunlight and poor airflow, ultimately going into decline sooner or later. You’d honestly be lucky to keep it alive for 2 years in zone 6. Small CIDP’s will burn to a crisp at 20F and they will be killed by 15F in a wet-cold winter climate.

There is a guy in Poland in zone 7b who builds a heated shelter over his CIDP each year, but he only has to keep it on from about December - February really. So it is covered for about 3 months. In Colorado you will be needing that shelter for at least 5 months from the start of November until the end of March. So it’s just not worth the hassle to keep a palm alive that will still defoliate and look sick, before eventually succumbing. Stick to Needles and Sabal Minor, which you may only need to cover for 1-2 months during mid-winter there.

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Dry-summer Oceanic / Warm summer Med (Csb) - 9a

Average annual precipitation - 18.7 inches : Average annual sunshine hours - 1725

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If you have success it will become a monsterous, spikey thing that will quickly become to large to protect.  I'd stick with something of a more reasonable size, CIDP get massive in every way.  If you've never seen a big one in real life, than however big you think they are, triple it.

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1 hour ago, Chester B said:

If you have success it will become a monsterous, spikey thing that will quickly become to large to protect.  I'd stick with something of a more reasonable size, CIDP get massive in every way.  If you've never seen a big one in real life, than however big you think they are, triple it.

Smaller is always easier to protect. If the back yard is big enough, why not a small conservatory?

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