Best palms for full shade to filtered light?

[IBGraham]

I have some shady spots in my garden and wanted to know what Palms don't mind some shade.  Recommendations welcome. If you can post pictures.  So Cal, Zone 9b/ 10a

 

Thanks!

[idontknowhatnametuse]

Chamaedorea costaricana

Chamaedorea pochutlensis

Chamaedorea tepejilote

[Silas_Sancona]

Any of the Chamaedorea  for sure,   " Whale tail " types like C.  brachypoda, deckeriana, metallica, stolonifera, ernesti augusti  esp.. 

See Palmpedia for shots of those / others.

While they can take some sun, Rhapis  will also look lusher in shade..

[Harry’s Palms]

Rhapis genus , Chuniophoenix , some of the many Dypsis palms . Harry

[Jim in Los Altos]

Howea forsteriana and belmoriana look incredible when shade grown. Rhopalostylis sapida and baueri like shady positions. Chamaedorea costaricana, and virtually all other Chamaedorea species (there are lots), Chambeyronia, Hedescepe canterburiana, Ceroxylon quindiuence, alpinum and others, and Rhapis excelsa and multifida.  
 

Howea forsteriana (green trunked palm)

 

Rbopalostylis baueri

 

Chamaedorea costaricana

 

Chambeyronia macrocarpa

 

Hedescepe canterburiaba

 

Chamaedorea ernesti-augusti 

 

Ceroxylon quindeuense

Rhapis excelsa

 

 

Rhapis multifida

 

[Harry’s Palms]

Beautiful Jim , all of the above! Harry

[IBGraham]

2 hours ago, Jim in Los Altos said:

Howea forsteriana and belmoriana look incredible when shade grown. Rhopalostylis sapida and baueri like shady positions. Chamaedorea costaricana, and virtually all other Chamaedorea species (there are lots), Chambeyronia, Hedescepe canterburiana, Ceroxylon quindiuence, alpinum and others, and Rhapis excelsa and multifida.  
 

Howea forsteriana (green trunked palm)

 

Rbopalostylis baueri

 

Chamaedorea costaricana

 

Chambeyronia macrocarpa

 

Hedescepe canterburiaba

 

Chamaedorea ernesti-augusti 

 

Ceroxylon quindeuense

Rhapis excelsa

 

 

Rhapis multifida

 

Amazing!!

[happypalms]

Lanonia dasyantha pretty well most licuala species there’s some real cute small dypsis varieties  chamaedorea adscedans Johannesteijsmannia altifrons. There’s  quite a few varieties of palms out there that will grow in the shade. Here’s a few pictures first up lanonia dasyantha, Johannesteijsmannia, dypsis lantzeana, lanonia calciphila, chamaedorea adscedans, licuala ramsayi, variegated rhapis, Kerriodoxa elegans. The list could go on it depends on how much room you have. The ones I have mentioned take low temperatures in my climate of 2 degrees Celsius with some cold wet conditions as well. 

[Harry’s Palms]

Thank you @happypalms another nice selection! I’m liking this thread. Harry

[mnorell]

Santa Clarita has a wonky interior climate with a bit of everything, including some really strong occasional cold, and that will limit your choices, but the canopy will save you a lot of winter damage, probably in all but the really bad years.

You don't state how much vertical clearance you have, but I assume it's under average-size trees. I'd strongly recommend the various Lytocaryum (especially L. hoehnei and L. weddelianum). They are extremely beautiful, stay to a perfect small size, under even quite low canopy, and in fact really need shade in interior climates, at least they do here in the Palm Springs area. L. hoehnei seems the strongest in my hot-summer area, so I'm sure it would do well for you.

As everyone has noted above, you have a lot of choices (you could probably fill acres with all the species of Chamaedorea alone). I would particularly recommend Rhapis multifida and Chamaedorea brachypoda, also Chuniophoenix (both species), all of which are aesthetically choice plants with unique foliage-shapes, multi-use for design purposes, and do well here for me in the sizzling low desert, and can even take a bit of sun in a hot interior climate.

I'd also recommend for strong visual character:
- Arenga engleri (can be used as a specimen, or background en masse)
- Livistona saribus (cold-hardier green-thorn type; excellent as a specimen in youth, requiring space around its spreading crown)
- Caryota monostachya (useful for modest-sized massing with its unusual foliage, or as a texture-break)

All of the above are capable of surviving significant freezing weather under canopy (to mid-20s, anyway) with minimal damage. Keeping a lot of clustering species can hedge a wipeout in a bad year (a la 1990) because they can return from the roots. And you will probably want a lot of Chamaedorea radicalis, the hardiest of the genus, and which will look lovely in shade as a sort of ground-cover en masse, and also can take a surprising amount of sun.

And don't neglect consideration of tough cycads like Ceratozamia latifolia or C. mexicana, or Dioon edule, which are super cold-hardy and love shade.

[Rob123]

All of the above palms are good recommendations. Pinanga species could also do well. My coronata seems to be doing well with 2 - 3 hours of morning sunlight before deep shade the rest of the day. Still very fast growing! 

[IBGraham]

1 hour ago, mnorell said:

Santa Clarita has a wonky interior climate with a bit of everything, including some really strong occasional cold, and that will limit your choices, but the canopy will save you a lot of winter damage, probably in all but the really bad years.

You don't state how much vertical clearance you have, but I assume it's under average-size trees. I'd strongly recommend the various Lytocaryum (especially L. hoehnei and L. weddelianum). They are extremely beautiful, stay to a perfect small size, under even quite low canopy, and in fact really need shade in interior climates, at least they do here in the Palm Springs area. L. hoehnei seems the strongest in my hot-summer area, so I'm sure it would do well for you.

As everyone has noted above, you have a lot of choices (you could probably fill acres with all the species of Chamaedorea alone). I would particularly recommend Rhapis multifida and Chamaedorea brachypoda, also Chuniophoenix (both species), all of which are aesthetically choice plants with unique foliage-shapes, multi-use for design purposes, and do well here for me in the sizzling low desert, and can even take a bit of sun in a hot interior climate.

I'd also recommend for strong visual character:
- Arenga engleri (can be used as a specimen, or background en masse)
- Livistona saribus (cold-hardier green-thorn type; excellent as a specimen in youth, requiring space around its spreading crown)
- Caryota monostachya (useful for modest-sized massing with its unusual foliage, or as a texture-break)

All of the above are capable of surviving significant freezing weather under canopy (to mid-20s, anyway) with minimal damage. Keeping a lot of clustering species can hedge a wipeout in a bad year (a la 1990) because they can return from the roots. And you will probably want a lot of Chamaedorea radicalis, the hardiest of the genus, and which will look lovely in shade as a sort of ground-cover en masse, and also can take a surprising amount of sun.

And don't neglect consideration of tough cycads like Ceratozamia latifolia or C. mexicana, or Dioon edule, which are super cold-hardy and love shade.

Thanks so much!! I have lots of very tall canopy from Giant timber bamboo, Very tall olive trees, A bunch of queen palms, 2 oak trees and so on.  The tougher conditions out here has forced me to be clever on how I protect my palms. I also have a bunch of palms that laugh off our cold winters. My problem lately is some of my garden has so much canopy It barely gets any direct sun anymore. So the advice is helpful! 

 

 

 

[IBGraham]

My canopy. The side closest to the camera gets morning sun and the furthest from the camera gets late afternoon sun/ sunset. Its the middle I'm trying to figure out. Thanks for everyone's help!!