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Hello 

was seeing if any chance to save my palm 

not sure if from sprinkler on root of palm or disease got it 

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My guess is that the palm is dying (dead) due to Fusarium Wilt disease. The rot you are seeing is just the old stems that these palms shed as they get older. Since that material is not living tissue, it decomposes easily in moist conditions. Fusarium Wilt disease is unfortunately not curable and is often spread by tree trimmer’s contaminated saws when they cut off green fronds. 

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Yes , I would say it will have to be removed. The Syagrus doesn’t look very healthy either. It may need more water . Canyon Country is a hot , dry environment . There are other palms that do better in desert conditions. Harry

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4 minutes ago, Harry’s Palms said:

Yes , I would say it will have to be removed. The Syagrus doesn’t look very healthy either. It may need more water . Canyon Country is a hot , dry environment . There are other palms that do better in desert conditions. Harry

Can palms be planted there now?

https://www.epicgardening.com/fusarium-wilt/

 

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@Mari63 I'd guess Fusarium Wilt too.  There are 5 main diseases that can kill CIDP:

  • Fusarium Wilt - causes fairly rapid death of older fronds, frequently (but not always) with a characteristic one-sided death of old fronds.
  • Ganoderma Butt Rot - affects the lower trunk area, sometimes visible "conks" grow off the side of the trunk
  • Thielaviopsis - affects the upper part of the palm
  • South American Palm Weevil (SAPW) - burrows into the growing point and kills the palm heart
  • Lethal Yellowing (LY) and Lethal Bronzing (LB) - phytoplasma diseases that are 100% fatal

You can see some pictures and description on the bottom half of this fact sheet:  https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/publication/ST439

Telling these apart in photos is difficult, as the symptoms look similar.  Only the SAPW is "sometimes curable" by treating with a systemic insecticide like Imadicloprid.  Unless you can see weevil holes, I'd guess it's one of the other incurable diseases and the palm is already dead.

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Hi!

Sorry to hear about your palm! There could be a couple of reasons for the issues you're seeing, so let's break it down:

  1. Overwatering from the Sprinkler: If your sprinkler is constantly hitting the base of the palm, that could cause overwatering. Palms like well-draining soil, and too much water can cause root rot or other issues like fungal infections. Try to redirect the sprinkler away from the palm to ensure it’s not getting too much moisture.

  2. Signs of Disease: Some common diseases that affect palms are fungal infections like Ganoderma butt rot or Fusarium wilt. You’ll usually see symptoms like wilting, yellowing, or browning of the fronds, especially starting from the lower ones. If you notice these symptoms along with black or mushy roots, it might be a disease issue. You could consider trimming the affected fronds and applying a fungicide (if it’s fungal).

  3. Check the Roots: If possible, inspect the roots for any signs of rot or unusual discoloration. If they’re mushy or blackened, it’s likely root rot. You can try to save the palm by improving drainage, reducing water, and cutting away damaged roots.

  4. Other Factors: Check if there are pests or environmental stress factors (like too much or too little sun) that could be contributing to the palm’s decline.

If it’s an advanced disease, it can be tough to save the palm, but adjusting your watering routine and treating any suspected fungal infections may give it a chance to recover.

Good luck, and I hope your palm pulls through!

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On 9/13/2024 at 12:51 AM, Jim in Los Altos said:

My guess is that the palm is dying (dead) due to Fusarium Wilt disease. The rot you are seeing is just the old stems that these palms shed as they get older. Since that material is not living tissue, it decomposes easily in moist conditions. Fusarium Wilt disease is unfortunately not curable and is often spread by tree trimmer’s contaminated saws when they cut off green fronds. 

Agree with Jim. Don't replant with CIDPs. I wouldn't trust the other larger Phoenix either. Condolences for your loss.

I suggest you look into the many Brahea spp. They grow well in hot, dry climates and, I believe, are not attacked by wilt.

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Meg

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