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So I know the palm formerly known as D. Decipiens has many trunks, but it is normal for one trunk to split into two even ones like this? 
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Whole palm for reference. 
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Corpus Christi, TX, near salt water, zone 9b/10a! Except when it isn't and everything gets nuked.

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@Xerarch down near the bottom, yes!  Someone here coined the term "doinker" to refer to weird clustering on palms.  Lutescens is known for weird clustering like that.  Here's my Pembana growing a new one out of the middle of the lower base.

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Both my Golden Cane palms have split or branched out. A curious habit that makes for an interesting discussion. HarryIMG_3692.thumb.jpeg.e482d7126ffc19baaa2715cef9de7799.jpegThis one also has a secondary trunk in the back but the curling one in front makes it unique.IMG_3607.thumb.jpeg.f9a3bb5fac3f160451a93635e53e31ff.jpegThe other Lutescens has a similar branch but more conventional growth pattern. 

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1 hour ago, Xerarch said:

So I know the palm formerly known as D. Decipiens.....

Ahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!! Too late for that edit button! Duh I meant palm formerly known as D. lutescens!

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Corpus Christi, TX, near salt water, zone 9b/10a! Except when it isn't and everything gets nuked.

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1 hour ago, Merlyn said:

@Xerarch down near the bottom, yes!  Someone here coined the term "doinker" to refer to weird clustering on palms.  Lutescens is known for weird clustering like that.  Here's my Pembana growing a new one out of the middle of the lower base.

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Yeah you can see on mine on the lower left I have a trunk with a smaller one coming out a lot like yours.  I thought the two even ones might not be as common.

Corpus Christi, TX, near salt water, zone 9b/10a! Except when it isn't and everything gets nuked.

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I had a very large old clump that branched a lot - almost seemed induced by stress. Eventually had to remove the whole thing because it was dying from ganoderma. This branch was turning into a fractal. 

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9 hours ago, Merlyn said:

@Xerarch down near the bottom, yes!  Someone here coined the term "doinker" to refer to weird clustering on palms.  Lutescens is known for weird clustering like that.  Here's my Pembana growing a new one out of the middle of the lower base.

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Bit different to a doinker I think as coined on here where the main stem redirectlu growth out of the side. This type of aerial splitting is common on clumping Chrysalidocarpus. Nearly all of the stems on my C arenarum do this and a lot on my C lutescens too. 

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@tim_brissy_13 so now you made me go search back on the history of PT made up words!  :D  :D  :D So I found this thread a while back that confirms your understanding, i.e. a Doinker is a new growth point direction after some sort of trauma caused it to abort the original growth direction, not a strange sucker. 

Almost a year earlier MattyB declared that a Doinker was just something small, and that Dave (presumably @DoomsDave) coined the term "Dweezle" for this in post #5.  The plot thickens....  :D

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And then even further back in 2011 MattyB uses it to describe a new growth direction after the normal one seemed to have died:

So I hereby propose the "official PT terminology" to define the words:

  • Dweezle - a new growth point direction for any palm (usually solitary) where the original growth direction was aborted due to some trauma like disease or physical damage.
  • Doinker - a new growth point split for any palm (usually clustering) where it emerges from a bizarre or unexpected location.

Clearly these are highly technical terms critical for the long-term understanding of wacko palm behavior.  I invite feedback and hope that a robust debate on this important topic may result in a clear direction for future posting.  Or at least be amusing.  :P  :floor2:

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Both aerial and non-aerial splits in this thread started 6 years ago.

Who is doing the "splits"?

 

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