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Trachycarpus ukrhulensis, Jubaeopsis caffra, Barcella odora, some rare Butia and Syagrus, Phoenix loureiroi var humilis and other Palm Hunter Seeds

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I have some Trachycarpus ukrhuklensis back in stock, Jubaeopsis caffra, Barcella odora (!), some rare Butia and Syagrus, as well as Phoenix loureiroi var humilis.  Also Cycas revoluta x taitungensis F2 (selfed_) seeds at a discount, plus some other stuff.

 

Trachycarpus ukrhulensis                                               $13/25, $21/50, $32/100

Jubaeopsis caffra                                                            $20/5, $30/10

Barcella odora                                                                $8 each (10 max per person)

Butia archeri (Diamantina)                                            $8 each

Butia sp. Itacambira                                                       $6 each

Butia sp. UNESP Jaboticabal                                         $3 each

Syagrus ruschiana hybrid                                              $7 each

Phoenix loureiroi var. humilis                                        $10/25, $14/50, $20/100

Cycas revoluta x taitungensis F2 (selfed)                     $0.75 each

Beccariophoenix alfredii                                              $13/10, $20/25, $30/50, $45/100

Sabal sp. 'Tamaulipas'                                                  $10/10, $15/25, $23/50, $35/100

Sabal causiarum                                                           $7/10, $10/25, $15/50, $22/100

Sabal etonia                                                                  $8/10, $12/25, $18/50, $27/100

Sabal minor var. louisiana                                           $7/10, $10/25, $15/50, $22/100

Sabal minor 'Blountstown Dwarf'                              $9/10, $14/25, $22/50, $33/100

Sabal minor (from my yard, and don't remember what variant, but I know it was a named one or else I wouldn't have it, haha)  $5/10, $8/25, $12/50, $18/100

Sabal mexicana                                                            $7/10, $10/25, $15/50, $22/100

 

I am still selling some palm seeds from 2022 harvest, at a discount.  Sabal seeds stay viable for well over a year, and probably several years if stored correctly. 

Sabal rosei                    $7/25, $10/50, $16/100

Sabal mauritiiformis    $7/25, $10/50, $16/100

Sabal palmetto 'Lisa'    $7/25, $10/50, $16/100

Sabal miamiensis          $10/50, $15/100

 

This is Butia sp. 'Itacambira'.  It comes from north of Minas Gerais, Brazil, where only B. archeri and true B. capitata are native, so it could be either a hybrid or a species yet to be described.  Other palms from this small population have produced purple fruits when mature, but this palm from the same population produces orangish-red fruits. 

 

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The Syagrus ruschiana hybrid is possibly a hybrid with S. schizophylla, but you can't be sure.

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Butia sp UNESP Jaboticabal is an unidentified species with twisted, glaucous leaves.  Very beautiful!

 

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PM sent. Some very rare seed here!

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12 hours ago, Bigfish said:

The Syagrus ruschiana hybrid is possibly a hybrid with S. schizophylla, but you can't be sure.

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Some pretty cool seeds you have there!  Apparently you didn't create the Syagrus ruschiana hybrid yourself since you're not sure of the pollen doner.  So are your seeds F2 from the F1 hybrid parent?  Most but not all Syagrus F2 seeds are not viable (eg, mule, coco queen) but Syagrus cearensis x coronata hybrids are self-fertile. 

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41 minutes ago, Fusca said:

Some pretty cool seeds you have there!  Apparently you didn't create the Syagrus ruschiana hybrid yourself since you're not sure of the pollen doner.  So are your seeds F2 from the F1 hybrid parent?  Most but not all Syagrus F2 seeds are not viable (eg, mule, coco queen) but Syagrus cearensis x coronata hybrids are self-fertile. 

Yes, they are selfed F2 seeds from an F1 parent.  They are indeed fertile and have been germinated previously.  

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By the way, for anyone unfamiliar with Barcella odora, nobody can blame you!  It’s not exactly common.  It’s in the Cocoseae tribe, but it’s more closely related to Elaeis than to the Butinae subtribe.  

https://www.palmpedia.net/wiki/Barcella_odora

 

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For those curious, since I have received a couple of inquiries about them, the Trachycarpus ukhrulensis and Phoenix loureiroi var. humilis are from habitat in India, so no chance of hybridization.  This variety of Phoenix loureiroi is a single-trunked palm.

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Here is my fastest Rosei, it's roughly 18 months old....

It's a rocket 🚀 🚀 

Don't hesitate do purchase!!!

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Butia archeri seeds are SOLD OUT.

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Butia sp. ‘Itacambira’ seeds are SOLD OUT.  
 

I still have some Barcella odora, 17 Butia sp. ‘UNESP Jaboticabal’, as well as a few Syagrus ruschiana hybrid seeds.

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Butia sp. ‘UNESP Jaboticabal’ are SOLD OUT.  
 

I have had a couple of issues with seed beetles in a couple of these species, namely the Butia sp. ‘UNESP Jaboticabal’ and the Syagrus ruschiana hybrid.  I will say that Brazil Customs inspected them twice, and the first time they got sent back because of an insect found.  Upon return, I instructed my contact to soak the remaining seeds (actually of a different species of Syagrus that I kept for myself and didn’t offer for sale) for a week, let them dry out for a couple of days in the sun, then bag them up and observe them for another week.  After everything looked fine, a couple of weeks later they mailed them again.  They passed Brazil Customs, then USA Customs and USDA inspection in Orlando.  Several weeks later  is when the first seed beetles emerged from a few seeds.  I try to cull and catch what I can, but I miss one occasionally.  This is just part of dealing with seeds.  
 

Also, the Butia archeri seeds float.  This was mentioned as a concern to me that they could be old, bad seeds.  I can assure you that the seeds are incredibly fresh.  I did a float test myself today and sure enough, 5/5 floated (it looks like one is a sinker in this picture, but it floated back up seconds later).  So I sacrificed a seed by cutting it right down the middle through the eye.  As you can see, there is nice, white endosperm and a beautiful, well-formed embryo.  It hurt me to do that because I was going to plant it, but in the interest of science and settling some nerves, I did it.  

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when I went to soak my B. Archeri seeds, they all float, however after 24 hrs, they all sank. so no issues with those seeds. must be an initial thing....

Will you be getting any more archeri seeds, or was that a one shot deal? Thx.

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1 hour ago, Walden D said:

Will you be getting any more archeri seeds, or was that a one shot deal? Thx.

Probably a one shot deal, to be honest.  Importing from Brazil is a challenge.  Importing from anywhere these days is a challenge, even with the correct permits and paperwork.  But I might try again if I can get a better quantity and price.  

Is anyone cracking their Butia seeds or playing the long game?  I typically crack them but at $8 a pop I'm a little skittish.

I do feel the pain of those that have gotten bad seeds. When I order seeds from someone on this forum (and anywhere else) I always know I am taking a chance and everyone else should know that too. Not all seeds are good even though they may appear to be.  Bigfish has always provided a high percentage of good seeds to me, as has most other member sellers here. That is rare from a lot of other non Palmtalk sources. I really appreciate him and others for providing seeds.  I will take the loss as long as the efforts of the seller are in good faith.

Wish there were more sources for seed from South America. So close but so far away as seed collection goes.

12 minutes ago, Keys6505 said:

Is anyone cracking their Butia seeds or playing the long game?  I typically crack them but at $8 a pop I'm a little skittish.

I only crack some seeds when I have a lot of them or they are particularly hard to sprout. With expensive seed I usually let nature take its course. If someone posts later that they had good success with cracking then I can always dig them up to do the deed.

4 hours ago, Keys6505 said:

Is anyone cracking their Butia seeds or playing the long game?  I typically crack them but at $8 a pop I'm a little skittish.

I'm playing the long game on this one.

They all sank so I suppose they'll germinate when they germinate. Its up to the genetics now!

 

  • 4 weeks later...

Noticed my Butia archeri seed have started germinating. IMG_5750.thumb.jpeg.9c00c4414256d21382d2449e5bd8d303.jpeg

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On 10/6/2024 at 12:56 PM, Gallop said:

Noticed my Butia archeri seed have started germinating. IMG_5750.thumb.jpeg.9c00c4414256d21382d2449e5bd8d303.jpeg

WHOOP-WHOOP!!!  ❤️😍

I got germination on 7 of the T. Ukrhulensis so far!

 

 

  • 1 year later...

How did everyone do with the Butia seeds?  After a year of no action I cracked them today.  The Jabuticoba seeds were all dead or had a grub in it.  One Itacambira is still good and the Archeri are still good except for the one I busted 🤦🏼‍♂️

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Do you still have any J. Caffra seeds?

@Keys6505most of my butia archeri seeds have germinated and about 40% for the other two so far

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12 hours ago, Eddie Prado said:

Do you still have any J. Caffra seeds?

No, I sold them all.

Thanks

  • 1 month later...

Looks like cracking the Butia seeds is working for me for anyone else getting impatient!

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48 minutes ago, Keys6505 said:

Looks like cracking the Butia seeds is working for me for anyone else getting impatient!

 

Do you mind explaining what the cracking method is? Is it different to de-lidding? Thanks

1 hour ago, Josh76 said:

Do you mind explaining what the cracking method is? Is it different to de-lidding? Thanks

I'm probably not going to use the correct terminology here, but I take the seed (which typically contains 1-3 "nuts" inside) and hold it on a concrete floor using vice grips with a thin rag over it to stop any projectiles.  I then tap with a hammer LIGHTLY until I feel the shell crack.  I gently work it open by hand to try to avoid any damage to the nuts inside.  I stick them in the baggie/medium like that, I don't try to fully dislodge the nuts from the shell.

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