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Are these synonyms or are they actually different palms?

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They are both accepted in their own right. If you’re ever unsure, Kew keeps a checklist on accepted species available online. My understanding is that C urens is restricted to India and Sri Lanka and the true form relatively rarely cultivated, whereas C maxima is widespread throughout Asia and commonly cultivated. C maxima also now contains the previously accepted C bacsonensis and C ochlandra among others and is quite variable in form. 

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Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

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6 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

They are both accepted in their own right. If you’re ever unsure, Kew keeps a checklist on accepted species available online. My understanding is that C urens is restricted to India and Sri Lanka and the true form relatively rarely cultivated, whereas C maxima is widespread throughout Asia and commonly cultivated. C maxima also now contains the previously accepted C bacsonensis and C ochlandra among others and is quite variable in form. 

Does this mean my Caryota Urens is probably Maxima? I bought the seedling from a collector here in Ventura about 30 years ago. It is very tall now , just keep watching for the terminal inflorescence. HarryIMG_3754.thumb.jpeg.78e4a39aba2b9fc11291c117c290dbac.jpegThe Caryota on the left (x 2) was believed to be Urens

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I wouldn’t claim to be able to give a positive ID from a picture from distance, but I would say that they do look like they are within the maxima complex. I believe urens are generally a bit chunkier. Of course growing conditions could be a factor too. 

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2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

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